Re: I almost went Blu...

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3 HD-A30 models and 1 xbox HD DVD drive to watch my movies on. I don't think you can find the HD-A30 or HD-A35 anymore. Stock is gone. I'll have 70 something movies total in my collection plus enjoy the perfect upconversion. Choke on that SONY fanboys

LOL

I learned this a long time ago ---- in Math class:

3x0=0 aka Three times nothing is still nothing.

Stop confusing me with your Einstein like formulas. I mean seriously not all of us here are mathletes

When adoption of Blu Ray becomes higher than 1% you might have some kind of leg to stand on Jono. So far that's nothing to be real proud of. We all know that download renting could very well take over the market before Blu Ray is fully realized. Just because you like to buy and I like to buy hardcopies doesn't mean the majority will buy enough to help.

Renting is where the money is at for the future of movie studios. Proof of that is how the music CD(hard copies) have decreased significantly with music downloads. Some of those services being only rental of music because when you quit the monthly fee they no longer work in the player.

Face it, it doesn't matter who won the so called format war. Neither had that much hope of being like SD DVD someday with the speed of change we have in technology now.

[Post edited by wolvinator on Apr 22, 2008]

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Renting is where the money is at for the future of movie studios.

Yep - Even Sony knows that which is why they're getting in on downloads.

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Dude... I'm sure the stock holders will be "thrilled" to have a whole bunch of obsolete players and machinery to manufacture them. --- that was just a soft soaping. I am sure that they will dump their remaining inventory after a way shorter time than 8 years.

How do you know what Toshiba plan.

I will enjoy my player and continue to buy HD-DVDs while I can. Future releases I will buy on SD just like 99% of the DVD buying public.
When my player eventually packs in and I can no longer get it serviced I will then decided which download service to go with which I bet will be the time when you you do the same Jono.

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I will enjoy my player and continue to buy HD-DVDs while I can. Future releases I will buy on SD just like 99% of the DVD buying public. When my player eventually packs in and I can no longer get it serviced I will then decided which download service to go with which I bet will be the time when you you do the same Jono.

I don't agree that HD-DVD players or non-2.0 Blu-ray players are "obsolete", as the HD-DVD players still have lots to offer considering the prices, and not everyone "needs" to be able to access the mostly lame web features. Scotsman, if you actually care about HD, why would you discount getting into Blu-ray at some point if you're actually interested in owning movies (whether by download or by disc)? Blu-ray prices will go down, and the audiovisual quality is (and likely will remain) far better to any one who really cares about the audiovisual quality. What you seem to be saying (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that you care about audiovisual quality because you're still buying HD-DVD discs, but if you can't buy HD-DVD then DVD or downloads are "good enough". Fair enough if you find prices too high right now, but you know prices are going to drop.

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Scotsman, if you actually care about HD, why would you discount getting into Blu-ray at some point if you're actually interested in owning movies (whether by download or by disc)? Blu-ray prices will go down

I do care about HD however I chose a format and that format was effectively discontinued. I won't now move to blu-ray on the assumption that HD-DVD lost so Blu-ray wins.

I am now waiting to see how this all develops. Blu-ray still has a battle on its hands to survive. It has to overtake SD and hope the development of download/steaming is slow enough to give it any sort of life expectancy.

If Blu-ray does establish itself as the main method for movie deliverance then I will go Blu but not until then. In the words of Jono - I won't throw good money after bad.

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If Blu-ray does establish itself as the main method for movie deliverance then I will go Blu but not until then. In the words of Jono - I won't throw good money after bad.

Fair enough - I guess I just missed that you were basing your prior comments on the assumption that downloads will be the prevailing HD format down the line. I think that both Blu-ray and downloads will be around in 10 years, but time will tell!

It took standard DVD about 6 or 7 years to exceed VHS sales after its introduction. You don't have long to wait then - perhaps just another 5 years before you go Blu, if Blu-ray catches on as fast as standard DVD did. And by then, players might be cheaper for you too.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Apr 23, 2008]

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It took standard DVD about 6 or 7 years to exceed VHS sales after its introduction. You don't have long to wait then - perhaps just another 5 years before you go Blu, if Blu-ray catches on as fast as standard DVD did. And by then, players might be cheaper for you too.

The problem with that analogy is that when DVD arrived as a replacement to VHS there were no alternative technologies emerging to deliver movies into the home.

Today ther is. We have VOD from cable, movie downloads etc.

Currently we have Apple, M$ with download services. Amazon with there 'unboxed'.
Blockbuster, Netflix are working on their own set top boxes. sony are looking to enter the market. MGM are creating a HD channel with VOD. We have Toshiba and others improving 'upscaling'

Downloading/streaming technologies are only going to get better - five years is a long time for them to do it in.

So where as DVD had a clear run to become the next format - you can't say the same about Blu-ray.

[Post edited by Scotsman on Apr 23, 2008]

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Downloading/streaming technologies are only going to get better - five years is a long time for them to do it in.

Agreed. In 5 or 6 years these forms of media delivery might take a noticeable bite out of the conventional rental market. But that's a different subject...