Sony pushes forward with digital distribution

Sony looks like being the next company to join the digital distribution.

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Sony may be launching a PS3 down loadable film service as soon as this summer, and has apparently begun talking to major studios already.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=134025

Thats a crazy thing about them. They have to do it to compete with xbox but at the same time they are gonna promote a media which may be the downfall of Blu Ray.

Well if they want to be at the Level of the 360 the PS3 my want to consider making some games that don't suck. They need more than 3 good exclusives.

looks like your prayers are answered kung fu!
MGS4
Gran turismo
ratchet and clank
resistance
uncharted
pain
haze
naruto ninja storm
time crisis 4
tekken 6
little big planet
killzone
and a bunch more on the way!!
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9393&Itemid=2
wow and this site has a chart that says next to nintendo, the best games are made directly by sony developers! amazing. did not know that

[Post edited by theprof00 on Apr 22, 2008]

you could have come up with a better list.
The problem with the sony fanbase has been nobody is buying the good game either.
look at uncharted or ratchet sales, rainbow six 2 sold eight times higher on the 360.

with gta4 coming out in a few days it should be an interesting set of npd numbers

Time Crisis? Uh, no, I dont think so.

The only things on that list that have any chance are MGS and Haze. GT Prologue sold ok so far, but nothing new compared to Forza or PGR. Killzone was a medicore shooter on the PS2 that was gonna "kill Halo"....maybe it did with laughter. Pretty pictures dont make a good game.

Sony has some exclusives coming, but only MGS4 will sell the system, and it isnt Halo.

Some people are questioning why Sony would be trying to get on the download bandwagon - Toshiba said it believed HD player market was limited in size and life which is why they withdrew from the market.

This article suggests Blu-ray still has a struggle on its hands primarily from SD DVD.

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Further, the state of the Blu-ray player market is not all that encouraging. The Blu-ray installed base today is heavily tilted towards Sony’s Playstation 3. Says Wilson, “The studios better hope that people are playing movies on their Playstations. Otherwise there’s very little installed base. In 2008 about 85% of the Blu-ray players in the market will be found in PS3s the dedicated consumer electronics and PC-based types of Blu-ray players won’t catch up in terms of market share until about 2013.”

Who knows where digital delivery will be by 2013 Sony most likely agree with Toshiba with regards to the lifetime of HD player market.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/format-wars-may-be-over,361825.shtml

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Some people are questioning why Sony would be trying to get on the download bandwagon - Toshiba said it believed HD player market was limited in size and life which is why they withdrew from the market.

Hmmmm...HD-DVD loses the "HD War" and conveniently now Toshiba feels that the market is limited. Okay.

Why wouldn't Sony want a piece of the download market? Cater to those who want physical discs AND to those who prefer the convenience of downloads, and you'll probably do very well. Downloads are competition for the VOD, PPV, and Blockbuster market. Blu-ray's main competition is SD-DVD. Yeah, that may change as technology evolves, but that's probably 5+ years down the line for any significant impact of downloads on actual disc purchases.

Blu-ray won't likely ever have market penetration to the level of SD-DVD, but its selling features will be audiovisual quality and a physical "good" (that many people still value). What percentage of people truly care about audiovisual quality? I don't know, but I do believe that it will be significant enough to be very lucrative for the Blu-ray camp for many years to come. Talk of 1% of the market is very preliminary at this point, as the technology is still in its infancy. Even if they only get 20% of the market, there's big money to be made in that 20%. With the huge upswing in HD television sales, this Christmas season will give a better indication of how many people truly care about the audiovisual quality.

I actually like the Time Crisis games. But I'm not going to buy a PS3 to play a game thats exactly like the other 3. The guncon 3 isn't even backwards compatible with the older lightgun games on PS2, fuck $ony. Tekken 6 will probably be on 360 since Namco isi n good relations with MS now. Most of those titles are bleh.

this just means that even though hd dvd lost, blu-ray also lost.

oops.

Quite a hypocritical move for a company to shove blu-ray format DOWN EVERYBODY'S THROAT... only to do a QUICK 180, and support a VERY POTENTIAL hi-def killer: DIGITAL DOWNLOAD.

The Smithsonian called: They're asking Sony if they want their blu ray paperweight next to the T-Rex skeleton, or Life-sized diorama, of a DO-DO bird exhibit.

Only one reason why they would support digital download: People CANNOT AFFORD Blu-ray... the casual viewers that make up OVER 90 percent of the buyers.

watever guys lol
talk down that list... making even more of a joke of yourselves when all those games (the ones out) have been rated with 86 or above on most sites, and early previews of the other games expected to be even better. Just because the games aren't outselling a console with 7 million more units in the wild doesn't mean it's a bad system.
Lol@ "GTP is good but hasn't sold near pgr"
It has only been out for a week in the US! and get this, it is already on a higher sales slope than those other two.... and it's a freaking demo!!!!
Yaknow what company created time crisis? the guys who made goldeneye. Ya know what happened when ms bought rare (that same company)? The lead devs left! Now comes TC4 from their camp, incredible!
And yes I could have made a better list, that was just off the top of my head. Anyhow, it isn't like the game sales matter anyhow. PS3 is now on top of 360 for 18 weeks, the game sales will come with more consoles sold. spin this however you like

You guys sound like you don't know much about video games:

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rainbow six 2 sold eight times higher on the 360.

You don't say! A shooter selling a lot of copies on teh 360! rediculous, i would believe you if all the systems other top sellers weren't also shooters.

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Time Crisis? Uh, no, I dont think so.

sorry i just threw that in there cuz it sold well and had great reviews.

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The only things on that list that have any chance are MGS and Haze

any chance of what exactly? selling games?

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Killzone was a medicore shooter on the PS2 that was gonna "kill Halo"....maybe it did with laughter. Pretty pictures dont make a good game.

yeah killzone wasn't as good as halo. Killzone 2 will have an easier time dealing with halo 3.

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Sony has some exclusives coming, but only MGS4 will sell the system, and it isn't Halo.

you might be right, but as of now, this year's lineup has a lot of people thinkin' otherwise.

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Tekken 6 will probably be on 360 since Namco isi n good relations with MS now

you mean sony? and what makes you think that? their release of time crisis exclusively for ps3?
don't get me wrong, i think you are all very intelligent people, but i game, a lot. i know i'm a bit of a nerd, but it's good stress relief from work school and g/f/wife. I am upto the minute on games news, and despite Gears of War coming out on 360 this year, I'm sure the 8-10 exclusive (AAA expected) titles coming out this year can cope.
mgs4,killzone2,afrika,ff13,littlebigplanet,haze,l.a.noire,8 days, heavy rain,tekken6, Gran turismo 5, the getaway3. i'm buying 7 of them btw. not enough cash flow.

EDIT: GT already sold 1.2 million copies worldwide, for the record. And it's a demo

[Post edited by theprof00 on Apr 23, 2008]

tylerdurden's overreaction -

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"Quite a hypocritical move for a company to shove blu-ray format DOWN EVERYBODY'S THROAT... only to do a QUICK 180, and support a VERY POTENTIAL hi-def killer: DIGITAL DOWNLOAD."

Gee... how about you let us know whenever you find it possible that a digital download will ever rival the 1080p/24 Blu-ray Hi-Def quality we have now!! (oh, and don't forget Dolby TrueHD, DTS-MasterAudio, and Uncompressed PCM audio).

And is 1080p/24 even possible on a download/streaming tech system? (and what about the compression and stability from your local cable/satellite company?)

Digital Downloads to be a possible "hi-def killer" over 1080p/24 Blu-ray - maybe in your dreams! Or maybe in a few decades... ?

The best possible HD content is Blu-ray 1080p/24... ANYTHING LESS (like Digital Downloads) is not at all appealing to me and my plasma. Once you get the best quality (Blu-ray), you don't want to settle for less.



-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)

Love Hendrix's IRRELEVANT CASE:

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Gee... how about you let us know whenever you find it possible that a digital download will ever rival the 1080p/24 Blu-ray Hi-Def quality we have now!! (oh, and don't forget Dolby TrueHD, DTS-MasterAudio, and Uncompressed PCM audio).

WHO CARES! The MAJORITY of the population CANNOT AFFORD HI-DEF PLAYER, HI-DEF TV, DTS RECEIVER, NOR CERTIFIED SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM! Who cares if blu-ray is superior... NO ONE CAN AFFORD IT. Even Sony's STUPIDITY is BITING THEM IN THE @$$, which is why they're supporting digital downloads AS A BACKUP... since EVEN SONY DOES NOT KNOW THE FUTURE OF BLU RAY!

Fanboys.... always living inside a COCOON.

[Post edited by tylerdurden on Apr 23, 2008]

The PS3 has already earned it's reputation. We all know that the public hangs onto first impressions. The people I know with PS3s bought them pretty much to be able to watch movies. The general public now thinks of the PS3 as a Blu-ray player first and foremost. That's probably going to be the reputation it has for it's lifespan. Now about Blu-ray players, can we please get a decent one for less than $500??? I mean, come on! How long have these things been on the market now? No wonder their penetration sucks. I want to buy one but am not going to shell out an obnoxious amount for one.

tylerdurden,

How do you propose one enjoys a HD downloaded movie. On a expensive Apple TV box or a $1000 HT/PC?

I'm going to say this. Alot of people bought into HDDVD when the players cost $500+ American dollars and Blu ray players were near $1000. They made the argument that BD standalone players cost too much...........COOL. The PS3 was $600 dollars........they still said it cost too much. OK. SONY dropped the price to $400, still to high, yet, some NOT ALL, of the same ones that cried Blu=too expensive HDDVD supporters have 5 and 6 HDDVD players.


This is how you know people who hate Blu ray are scared to see it prosper. The ones who argue that SD/DVD will always be King or HD downloading is the future. Well as far as DVD vs Blu-ray goes because of decline in DVD sales, Warner has decided to conduct a little expiriment. They are releasing Be Kind Rewind to Blu ray first with the DVD release 1 week later. My bet is if this trend continues with the decline of DVD sales we could possible see the beginning of the end for DVD.

If you read my post carefully I never said that this would happen overnight.

@ theprof00

Beautiful Katamari was originally a PS3 exclusive and then it became an Xbox 360 exclusive, Pac Man CE is also exclusive to Xbox Live. I'd say Namco is in good relations with MS now. If they are smart they will release Tekken 6 on Xbox 360. Epic has already confirmed that UT3 will be better on 360. It damn well be better because it sold poorly on PS3.

[Post edited by rangoonth on Apr 23, 2008]

tylerdurden said -

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"Who cares if blu-ray is superior... NO ONE CAN AFFORD IT."

Thanks for your confession.

However, for example, I don't see expensive car companies worrying about their 'survivalbililty' (Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Mercedes Benz etc). But... Blu-ray is NOWHERE as expensive (as a percentage) in home video costs, as luxury cars are to ordinary cars.

In my opinion, if you really cannot afford a Blu-ray player, and purchase a few discs, and also RENT for a low monthly fee, then you probably could not afford DVD either. (yet, somehow I think you have a DVD player, and own some discs, yes?). Well, Blu-ray prices are going to come down within the next year (see previous announcements), and most should be able to adopt... if they want to.

-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)

Love Hendrix shallow defense:

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However, for example, I don't see expensive car companies worrying about their 'survivalbililty' (Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Mercedes Benz etc). But... Blu-ray is NOWHERE as expensive (as a percentage) in home video costs, as luxury cars are to ordinary cars.

Apparently, your FANBOY RANT on Blu Ray stems from being a Narrow-minded squid. So let me teach you a thing or two about economics: In order to take advantage of Blu Ray, you HAVE TO SPEND $400 for the player, at least $1400 FOR A DECENT-SIZED 1080p HDTV screen (since owning anything less than 1080p IS DOWNRIGHT STUPID), at least $400 for a good A/V receiver to take advantage of the Blu-ray featured audio formats, and AT LEAST ANOTHER $700-$1000 for a good SIX-SPEAKER-PLUS-SUBWOOFER speaker system, to accomodate that expensive A/V receiver.

The whole BLU-RAY SETUP adds up a pretty penny that amounts to AT LEAST THREE GRAND. You, and all the rest of the HI-DEF FANBOY SHEEPS, are so FOCUSED on how great Blu-ray is... that NONE OF YOU ever accounted for the FACT THAT BLU RAY HI-DEF ONLY WORKS, with THE REST OF THE COMPONENTS INCLUDED!

That $400 Blu-ray player is a SMOKESCREEN for further expense ON WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION CANNOT, AND WILL NOT AFFORD! Your analogy of luxury automobiles over the hi-def player is so terribly flawed, that you're INCAPABLE OF THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

Here's another ECONOMIC LESSON FOR YOU (and all of you FANBOY SHEEPS): Economic analysts predicting that IT WOULD TAKE AT LEAST 2010 to fix the mortgage subprime fiasco, to disappear. After that, WORLDWIDE ECONOMY WILL STILL SUFFER THE GASOLINE CHOKEHOLD. The country is already showing $4/gallon NOW, and expected to hit $5 this summer. In addition, the BIODIESEL crusade has amplified the rising cost of ANYTHING AGRICULTURE, including dairy products. It would take AT LEAST A DECADE to see a sign of A VALID FUEL ALTERNATIVE to gasoline, and by that time... ANOTHER MEDIA FORMAT would've easily REPLACED DVD (which WILL OUTLAST Blu-ray). There is no quick solution to any of these crisis & you FANBOYS think the MAJORITY (whose already taking SERIOUS HITS at the pump & grocery lines) will cling to Blu-Ray, as the next BIG THING (in media format)?

THAT'S A JOKE.
No one cares for Blu-ray since it DEMANDS FURTHER HARDWARE EXPENSES that would amount to THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. Unfortunately, you (and the other hi-def FANBOY SHEEPS on this site) are TOO NARROW-MINDED to see the whole REALISTIC PICTURE, which does not require 1080p to see THE REAL MESSAGE.

[Post edited by tylerdurden on Apr 23, 2008]

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but i game, a lot. i know i'm a bit of a nerd, but it's good stress relief from work school and g/f/wife. I am up to the minute on games news

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Yaknow what company created time crisis? the guys who made goldeneye. Ya know what happened when ms bought rare (that same company)? The lead devs left! Now comes TC4 from their camp, incredible!

-Rare did not make time crisis
-Free Radical, the team formed out of Rare ex-employees is not making time crisis
you have no idea what your talking about.

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i would believe you if all the systems other top sellers weren't also shooters.

-6 out of the top 10 selling games are not shooters.

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sorry i just threw that in there cuz it sold well and had great reviews.

-are you talking about Time Crisis 4 for the PS3? the game that scored an average of 61%, which = Garbage. http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/938758.asp?q=time%20crisis

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yeah killzone wasn't as good as halo. Killzone 2 will have an easier time dealing with halo 3.

-Guerrilla-Games hasn't made a game that could be considered above average ever, all the games they have ever made haven't scored over 80%

you go on to list a bunch of games you don't know anything about and call them AAA
haze, 8 days, the getaway, afika, heavy rain.
why would you just consider them AAA?
you have no idea what your talking about.

[Post edited by MaltrophsTiTAN on Apr 23, 2008]

tylerdurden... hey, your writing styles are just like another here - xplaytendo - could this be a (new) 2nd nic?

Settle down Beavis!

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"that NONE OF YOU ever accounted for the FACT THAT BLU RAY HI-DEF ONLY WORKS, with THE REST OF THE COMPONENTS INCLUDED!"

Hey, it's in HD on a Blu-ray equipped computer drive... so there!!




-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)

@rangooth
dude, pacman and beautiful katamari are not exactly known for their in depth programming. Those games care about one thing. Making a game for less than 10,000$ and selling 500,000 copies lifetime.

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-Rare did not make time crisis
-Free Radical, the team formed out of Rare ex-employees is not making time crisis
you have no idea what your talking about.

Yes, i know i had thought i fixed that in the edit but i guess not. I was thinking of something else with time in it, and now im not even sure about the rare part anymore. Oh yeah timesplitters is in the works for ps3. that's what it was. sorry for the confusion. i was gunna say something about timesplitters and then fumbled at... what was it... oh 3 a.m. or so. my bad. incidentally, although you seem to be coming off as a gamer, i thought you at least would have caught that slip and said something like "you're thinking of timesplitters4 idiot." the company, the situation and the name? could it be that you looked your info up on wikipedia?

and whatever 8 out of the top 10 games 360 has are shooters.
and 16 of the 27 games that sold 1 million copies are shooters. the top three are shooters. and blow every other game out of the water by almost double the sales.

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-are you talking about Time Crisis 4 for the PS3? the game that scored an average of 61%, which = Garbage.

it's a good game for what it is man. Buying it and then saying "Oh i would rather play god of war" is not a good review. Read the reviews. Most quoted "If you like gun games (it's a buy)" if not don't waste your time score : 47% whatever. A lot of the top scores said 'Overall very solid game. Just not sure if the genre really matters anymore. though it is a fun game'(paraphrased).

all those games i listed are expected to be AAA and have a lot of hype, a lot of great trailers, and a lot of internet attention. I never said they were AAA, i said they were expected to be. They are getting a similar type of attention that assassin creed got so who knows. "Free Radical" also developed Haze, so i dunno why you included that in your list of what you determine to be a sucky game but whatever.

[Post edited by theprof00 on Apr 24, 2008]

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Apparently, your FANBOY RANT on Blu Ray stems from being a Narrow-minded squid. So let me teach you a thing or two about economics: In order to take advantage of Blu Ray, you HAVE TO SPEND $400 for the player, at least $1400 FOR A DECENT-SIZED 1080p HDTV screen (since owning anything less than 1080p IS DOWNRIGHT STUPID), at least $400 for a good A/V receiver to take advantage of the Blu-ray featured audio formats, and AT LEAST ANOTHER $700-$1000 for a good SIX-SPEAKER-PLUS-SUBWOOFER speaker system, to accomodate that expensive A/V receiver.

TD, I've lost what you're trying to say - I thought you were arguing earlier that downloads will probably kill Blu-ray. Blu-ray's other competition (on top of the obvious SD-DVD competition) would be HD downloads, right? I'm with Skyhawk thinking that this competition is more on the rental side right now, but that's another story. The same people who care enough about HD downloads (instead of SD downloads) also are the people who are likely to have an HDTV and a decent receiver, and of course would also need a computer that is high-end enough to accomodate hooking it up to an HDTV and receiver (unless they just watch it on their computer monitor, I guess). They also need a monthly high bandwidth internet connection, which doesn't come cheap. So, $300-$400 for a Blu-ray player doesn't seem that prohibitive for those who need all that other equipment anyway if they're going to watch HD in one format or another.

If you're arguing that people won't get into HD, period (downloads or Blu-ray) that's one thing, but if you're saying that HD downloads will rule over Blu-ray because of the cost, then that argument doesn't add up to me. If you want the primo set-up with 1080p and 7.1 audio then, yeah, you're going to pay more, but those who choose to watch Blu-ray in 1080i and 5.1 audio (or less) are still getting a higher quality audiovisual experience compared to downloads, at least for the forseeable future, and Blu-ray doesn't represent a substantial price difference given all of the above.

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8 out of the top 10 games 360 has are shooters.

are you talking about sales or overall average rankings

and no i didn't need wiki to tell me about rare and free radical,
I know who works for who, who makes what, what there making now, what they've made, and what they're going to make. I know what they've said at ubidays, i know what was hidden in the christmas card, ... i know a lot.

I knew what you meant to say with time crisis but i just wanted to rub that in a little knowing you said you were a gamer and kept up on all the little details, which made you look silly.


about sony coming out with a digital download service, it won't keep blu ray a niche market, it will keep sony relevant. people live with both right now, one won't kill the other.

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tylerdurden,

How do you propose one enjoys a HD downloaded movie. On a expensive Apple TV box or a $1000 HT/PC?

I'm still wating for an answer.

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The best possible HD content is Blu-ray 1080p/24... ANYTHING LESS (like Digital Downloads) is not at all appealing to me and my plasma. Once you get the best quality (Blu-ray), you don't want to settle for less.

If this was true, having top the line with the best of the best, I'd be driving a 6 figure car and live in a 7 figure house, maybe in Beverly Hills anyone here selling?

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Warner has decided to conduct a little experiment. They are releasing Be Kind Rewind to Blu ray first with the DVD release 1 week later. My bet is if this trend continues with the decline of DVD sales we could possible see the beginning of the end for DVD.

Warner already did after switching to Blu, releasing all HD DVD 3 weeks later. I didn't break down, panic and run out and buy a Blu-ray player just to watch a movie. I waited 3 weeks, so I'm sure I can wait a week.

I'll also pass on this one, that will be a rental.

[Post edited by enc66 on Apr 24, 2008]

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Warner has decided to conduct a little experiment. They are releasing Be Kind Rewind to Blu ray first with the DVD release 1 week later. My bet is if this trend continues with the decline of DVD sales we could possible see the beginning of the end for DVD.

This is probably an indication that WB are concerned about the up take of BD.

360 is better period. bluray all the way!

Tony1569, your comment is downright NONSENSE.

One: Where did I ever provide, in any of my messages, about anything "apple TV", or "HTPC"?
Two: Apple TV costs under $300 that DOESN'T REQUIRE HDTV set... Blu-ray NEEDS one.
Three: You must be living UNDER A ROCK if you're suggesting that HTPC costs $1000!!! That is DOWNRIGHT FALSE! One can easily... EASILY get a FULL Dell 531 desktop for under $350, at dell outlet with FULL ONE YEAR PARTS & LABOR included. Should anyone jump the Blu-ray bandwagon, you can Upgrade that same system with a ATI RADEON 2600PRO HD or 2600XT (ATI being FAR SUPERIOR in processing HD-VIDEO than Nvidia) for around $65-$80, and a blu-ray reader for $130- and you have yourself a FULL BLOWN BLU-RAY PLAYER, that anyone can also use- AS A FULL BLOWN COMPUTER.

That dell 531 desktop is equipped with a AMD x2 4400 cpu (minimum) w/ 2gb ram, and a generous sized 500GB SATA drive, and a 5.1 audio channel soundcard. Since the MAJORITY of the Hidef processing is offloaded to the ati radeon videocard, a SUPERFAST CPU IS NOT NEEDED. That same desktop pc has one of the QUIETEST POWER SUPPLY'S EVER PROVIDED (check the forums). That same desktop ALSO ALREADY INCLUDES A SATA DVD BURNER, AND A WINDOWS VISTA OS. 2gb ram is all you need since the 256mb or 512mb videocard memory, services the hi-def/graphics content.
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/InventorySearch?c=us&cs=22&l=en&lob=INSPDT&MODEL_DESC=Inspiron%20531&s=dfh

Both the video card (with dvi-hdmi adapter) & the blu-player can be bought cheap at newegg, and using a FAR MORE FLEXIBLE video player (than Windows Media Player) that IS FREE: VLC Media player.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=ati+radeon+2600&x=0&y=0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106227

It doesn't take a genius to realize that you can get a $600 HTPC that can DO MORE video formats than a blu ray player, DO MORE functionality AS A COMPUTER for the user, & DO MORE potential HARDWARE upgrades, than buying a blu-ray PAPERWEIGHT. Here's another stinker: Unless you buy the PS3, THE HTPC (with the above setup) can play GAMES (made today) at decent framerates... Also: PC games ARE MUCH MUCH CHEAPER than console games (of the same titles- Example: Devil May Cry 4 is $20 cheaper for the PC format, check Amazon).

Last but not least: Dell ALWAYS provide coupon-code discounts on their delloutlet products during the holidays (especially Thanksgiving) that further sweeten the deal. From 15-30 percent OFF.

So I don't understand where you're pulling that $1000 figure... unless of course, YOU'RE JUST GUESSING. I don't even understand which IMAGINARY FRIEND suggested to you, that I mentioned anything about "Apple TV" or "HTPC" until you brought them up.

More importantly, my initial post was Sony's reason for supporting digital downloads... and that's because EVEN SONY- CANNOT PREDICT THE FUTURE FOR BLU RAY.

Maybe Sony realized, at the economic state the world is in now.... NO ONE CARES, NOR CAN AFFORD BLU-RAY- SO JOIN THE CLUB & PROVIDE DIGITAL DOWNLOADS, AS WELL.

[Post edited by tylerdurden on Apr 24, 2008]

Oh by the way... that PILOT-RUN by WB (that you're advertising) for releasing a blu-ray movie before a DVD... yeah, THAT BLOCKBUSTER TITLE will bring people in MASS EXODUS.

[Post edited by tylerdurden on Apr 24, 2008]

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Tony1569, your comment is downright NONSENSE. One: Where did I ever provide, in any of my messages, about anything "apple TV", or "HTPC"?Two: Apple TV costs under $300 that DOESN'T REQUIRE HDTV set... Blu-ray NEEDS one.

TD, weren't you talking about HD downloads? If you're saying that SD downloads may kill off Blu-ray or other HD media, then I don't understand why that would happen. They're aimed at completely different consumers. But if you were talking about HD downloads, then yes you do need some higher end equipment in order to enjoy HD in one form or another, in which case you aren't likely to be blown away by the cost of a $300-$400 Blu-ray player. Some may wait for the right price point for them, but I don't expect HD downloads to be significantly cheaper (if at all).

Yeah mal that was my point exactly. Sony is doing this to be able to compete with msoft just in case the momentum shifts to downloads. However.. if sony goes ahead and dominates digital distribution, which is very possible with mandatory wireless ps3's, interchangeable hard drives, and online store within one cheap bundle, then the next step would be to slow down adoption as much as possible while maintaining lead ground in order to crush the competition msoft. I'm sure destabilizing ms' budget is going to give ps3 or future consoles a good boost, as well as sway a lot of film buffs to try out the new trend of "cinematic gaming".
That is a little more info than i originally put, but I believe Sony and MS are tied up in each other in a lot of things right now. Each victory only compounds losses across the board for the rival.
I also get a little pissed off when i see that there "aren't any games" or when people refer to future releases as "going to suck". It's a lame argument.
As for that christmas card...... Lemme say one thing first. I've had xbox's and so have my friends. I have hated the controller from the start, hated the "american feel" xbox has, with the square jawed, goatee wearing, pretty boys, and hated the fact i can never read the writing on the screen.
When I saw that card, and saw Banjo, KI i wanted to kill someone. I was very upset first of all that not only did i believe the "new rare" was going to destroy several perfectly made games that i enjoyed so much when i was younger. But that 360 was going to cash in on the rare name, when not only did some of their best devs leave, but also the geniuses, (stamper bros.) are no longer involved whatsoever.
btw: if you've heard anything of either of them lemme know. I heard they were dot coming for a while but they've dropped off the face of the planet.