Re: Netflix will charge more for Blu-ray
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
October 2004
October 2004
You can rent from the censor-kings of America if you want.
I wouldn't piss on a Blockbuster if it was on fire.
Have I said that before? If so, it needs saying again.
I wouldn't piss on a Blockbuster if it was on fire.
Have I said that before? If so, it needs saying again.
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
January 2006
January 2006
Chris,
Keep preaching, brother. I have been anti-Blockbuster for as long as I can remember. Forcing fullscreen movies onto people, shoddy selection in stores and $4 for a rental...sorry, not my cup of tea.
Hendrix,
I love you dude, but with my one at a time Netflix plan, I get roughly 8-9 movies per month. This month will be slightly less because of vacation. There is a distribution facility less than 2 hours away from me. Movie put into the mail on Monday gets checked in on Tuesday, new one sent for Thursday. I've never had a problem with them...and I can watch stuff online, too. In fact, I just got my sister a gift subscription to Netflix for her birthday.
Jason, Netflix aficiondao
Keep preaching, brother. I have been anti-Blockbuster for as long as I can remember. Forcing fullscreen movies onto people, shoddy selection in stores and $4 for a rental...sorry, not my cup of tea.
Hendrix,
I love you dude, but with my one at a time Netflix plan, I get roughly 8-9 movies per month. This month will be slightly less because of vacation. There is a distribution facility less than 2 hours away from me. Movie put into the mail on Monday gets checked in on Tuesday, new one sent for Thursday. I've never had a problem with them...and I can watch stuff online, too. In fact, I just got my sister a gift subscription to Netflix for her birthday.
Jason, Netflix aficiondao
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
June 2006
Chris, Jason, let's get the facts clear...
Blockbuster does carry the widescreen versions (both in-store and online). In the past, they would opt occasionally for full-screen versions, but now both types are either included on the disc, or the company offers the WIDESCREEN only. Remember, I know this, and you guys don't (obviously) since you both admit to not being one of their customers.
As for 'censoring', for some titles (VERY FEW), the in-store Blockbuster edition is the 'Rated R' version - but ONLINE (just like Netflix), the company offers the 'unrated' edition. For example, I noticed this with the recent release of a film called Lust, Caution (directed by respected director Ang Lee). The local in-store is the edited 'R' version (provided by the studio), but you can have the 'unrated' edition sent from your online queue.
I like Netflix too, but I love Blockbuster, which is better because of brilliant TOTAL ACCESS membership plan. As for the forthcoming Netflix price increase, it's no doubt related to Blockbuster's price increase in early January (from $17.99 to $19.99 on the popular "3 out at a time" plan), as well as the upcoming (next month) US Postal Service RATE INCREASE, and the fact that with everything going up in price, the market can bear it.
But Neflix will suffer some 'churning' (losing customers), and I myself will probably lower my monthly rental membership down to their cheapest unlimited plan (like Jason has). Makes sense to do, since Blockbuster TA occupies more of my rentals these days - both online and the FREE in-store rentals (from my exchanges).
-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)
Blockbuster does carry the widescreen versions (both in-store and online). In the past, they would opt occasionally for full-screen versions, but now both types are either included on the disc, or the company offers the WIDESCREEN only. Remember, I know this, and you guys don't (obviously) since you both admit to not being one of their customers.
As for 'censoring', for some titles (VERY FEW), the in-store Blockbuster edition is the 'Rated R' version - but ONLINE (just like Netflix), the company offers the 'unrated' edition. For example, I noticed this with the recent release of a film called Lust, Caution (directed by respected director Ang Lee). The local in-store is the edited 'R' version (provided by the studio), but you can have the 'unrated' edition sent from your online queue.
I like Netflix too, but I love Blockbuster, which is better because of brilliant TOTAL ACCESS membership plan. As for the forthcoming Netflix price increase, it's no doubt related to Blockbuster's price increase in early January (from $17.99 to $19.99 on the popular "3 out at a time" plan), as well as the upcoming (next month) US Postal Service RATE INCREASE, and the fact that with everything going up in price, the market can bear it.
But Neflix will suffer some 'churning' (losing customers), and I myself will probably lower my monthly rental membership down to their cheapest unlimited plan (like Jason has). Makes sense to do, since Blockbuster TA occupies more of my rentals these days - both online and the FREE in-store rentals (from my exchanges).
-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
January 2006
January 2006
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Chris, Jason, let's get the facts clear...
Since you want to talk facts...
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In the past, they would opt occasionally for full-screen versions, but now both types are either included on the disc, or the company offers the WIDESCREEN only. Remember, I know this, and you guys don't (obviously) since you both admit to not being one of their customers.
When I went into the stores years and years ago, this was the case. Since then, I have no REASON to go into the store. Period. Once you lose me as a customer, you lose me forever.
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As for 'censoring', for some titles (VERY FEW), the in-store Blockbuster edition is the 'Rated R' version - but ONLINE (just like Netflix), the company offers the 'unrated' edition. For example, I noticed this with the recent release of a film called Lust, Caution (directed by respected director Ang Lee). The local in-store is the edited 'R' version (provided by the studio), but you can have the 'unrated' edition sent from your online queue.
Again, as of my college days-last experience-ending in mid-2001, Blockbuster did not. Maybe it was the local store in East Lansing, maybe not. Regardless, see my comments regarding the full/wide aspect ratios.
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As for the forthcoming Netflix price increase, it's no doubt related to Blockbuster's price increase in early January (from $17.99 to $19.99 on the popular "3 out at a time" plan), as well as the upcoming (next month) US Postal Service RATE INCREASE, and the fact that with everything going up in price, the market can bear it.
I've thought about this a lot the last day or so. Until I actually see the price increase, I won't believe it. Why? Within the confines of the information we received, there were no specifics, except a general "later this year." I'm thinking this was a test balloon to gauge what consumers thought.
As with the Post Office Rate Increase, isn't it just a penny?
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But Neflix will suffer some 'churning' (losing customers), and I myself will probably lower my monthly rental membership down to their cheapest unlimited plan (like Jason has). Makes sense to do, since Blockbuster TA occupies more of my rentals these days - both online and the FREE in-store rentals (from my exchanges).
My friend, nothing is free. Even though you pay nothing when you do the return/new movie in the store, it is factored into the price of the membership.
Sidenote: Blockbuster trying to buy Circuit City is regarded as a stupid move by most analysts. What do you think is going to happen if it goes through? One miserable company eaten up by another miserable company. Remember Blockbuster has new management, cut its Online advertising budget drastically, and lost lots of marketshare to Netflix. If the buyout goes through, neither company will be left standing in three years.
Jason, keep trying to persuade me
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
June 2006
Jason... thanks for confirming that you personally weren't up to date (per your decision from 2001) on Blockbuster's movie edition info (R/Unrated, and Full/Widescreen). Things do CHANGE for the better (makes sense right?), and so might you consider 'coming back to the fold' and become TA member(?)... perhaps.
As for postal increase, the first class is going up only a penny, but usually the other mail services/rates see increases too. So that's why I mentioned it. Still, it could just be related to 'market conditions', since prices for most things are going up.
Jason said -
Yes, I know this, and pointed it out in my lengthy post on page 3. Summary - because of the TA popularity among some members (for those in-store FREE rental exchanges), today the company does put a limit (for some members) on how many 'freebies' you can have every month from the local store. However, they specifically omitted the founding TA members (like myself) who never have changed their membership plan. So, to date, I can get as many freebies in-store every month (exchanges), as they continue to allow this. The only change was a small $2.00 price in membership (to all members) that was done in early January.
Note: I have heard that both Blockbuster and Netflix have occasionally cancelled memberships from some members who may abuse their services (reporting 'lost' discs too often, extremely heavy renters-?, etc), but I consider my online/in-store rentals to be just a little above average, and not excessive, nor costing the company more than the $20 they charge me every month. Also, I usually buy COCA-COLA from the normal in-store promotion of "two 2-liters for $3" about every other trip, so as to give them some additional revenue. And occasionally I've purchase a used (or previously viewed) disc.
-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)
As for postal increase, the first class is going up only a penny, but usually the other mail services/rates see increases too. So that's why I mentioned it. Still, it could just be related to 'market conditions', since prices for most things are going up.
Jason said -
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"My friend, nothing is free. Even though you pay nothing when you do the return/new movie in the store, it is factored into the price of the membership."
Yes, I know this, and pointed it out in my lengthy post on page 3. Summary - because of the TA popularity among some members (for those in-store FREE rental exchanges), today the company does put a limit (for some members) on how many 'freebies' you can have every month from the local store. However, they specifically omitted the founding TA members (like myself) who never have changed their membership plan. So, to date, I can get as many freebies in-store every month (exchanges), as they continue to allow this. The only change was a small $2.00 price in membership (to all members) that was done in early January.
Note: I have heard that both Blockbuster and Netflix have occasionally cancelled memberships from some members who may abuse their services (reporting 'lost' discs too often, extremely heavy renters-?, etc), but I consider my online/in-store rentals to be just a little above average, and not excessive, nor costing the company more than the $20 they charge me every month. Also, I usually buy COCA-COLA from the normal in-store promotion of "two 2-liters for $3" about every other trip, so as to give them some additional revenue. And occasionally I've purchase a used (or previously viewed) disc.
-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
January 2006
January 2006
Hendrix,
I'm entirely too tired to deal with this more tonight. You're right: I'm not entirely up to date with Blockbuster. As I already mentioned, the reason is they screwed me as a consumer years ago. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Coming from the guy who would gladly vote for a de facto third Bush term, I'm hardly surprised you like being over the barrel so much, screaming for more.
Dude, Chris and I have no love for Blockbuster. You do. I respect that, as I'm sure Chris does. I have no interest in going BACK to the Evil Empire when I get 8-9 movies a month from Netflix, excluding what I can watch online. Not to mention all the review discs I get sitting on the doorstep, in addition to the theatrical's I see basically every week and the movies I record off of TCM and buy. It's a struggle to keep up with that some days. Why would I ask for more if I can help it? I'm happy with Netflix, this BD premium notwithstanding.
Know what? Once the premium is announced, lets do a comparison for the same number of movies on a monthly basis and see which one is cheaper, okay? Until then, this is a circular argument with no hope of resolution.
Jason, testy, tired and ornery
I'm entirely too tired to deal with this more tonight. You're right: I'm not entirely up to date with Blockbuster. As I already mentioned, the reason is they screwed me as a consumer years ago. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Coming from the guy who would gladly vote for a de facto third Bush term, I'm hardly surprised you like being over the barrel so much, screaming for more.
Dude, Chris and I have no love for Blockbuster. You do. I respect that, as I'm sure Chris does. I have no interest in going BACK to the Evil Empire when I get 8-9 movies a month from Netflix, excluding what I can watch online. Not to mention all the review discs I get sitting on the doorstep, in addition to the theatrical's I see basically every week and the movies I record off of TCM and buy. It's a struggle to keep up with that some days. Why would I ask for more if I can help it? I'm happy with Netflix, this BD premium notwithstanding.
Know what? Once the premium is announced, lets do a comparison for the same number of movies on a monthly basis and see which one is cheaper, okay? Until then, this is a circular argument with no hope of resolution.
Jason, testy, tired and ornery
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
March 2002
March 2002
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You can rent from the censor-kings of America if you want.
I wouldn't piss on a Blockbuster if it was on fire.
Have I said that before? If so, it needs saying again.
Chris,
Finally! Something we can agree on! Dude, can I give you a big hug?
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
March 2002
March 2002
Jimi Love,
The reason Jason, Chris and myself are anti Blcokbuster is a matter of integrtiy and fair business practice in the big world. Like Wal*mart, Blockbuster came into the scene years ago and muscled out the mom & pop video stores -- even Hollywood video follows their lead and is still behind the game when in comparison. Netflix came into the rental scene and were the first to give us the "online" rental experience, and what happens next? Good old Blockbuster feels the need to compete, and I'm sure in their evil mind they'd love to crush Netflix.
We don't support Blockbuster for for simple business ethics and common morals. If you're happy with them, then good for you, keep on renting from the evil empire. Nevertheless, please show some respect for the fact that we don't support them for personal reasons. And please stop shilling the crap out of them every time anyone mentions their name! It's old news dude, we get it, you love Blockbuster and are happy with them. However, some of us don't support them for VALID reasons, as they do hold a track record of lawsuits from common consumers. So please, give it a rest -- you're happy with them, great! Now move on!
[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Apr 23, 2008]
The reason Jason, Chris and myself are anti Blcokbuster is a matter of integrtiy and fair business practice in the big world. Like Wal*mart, Blockbuster came into the scene years ago and muscled out the mom & pop video stores -- even Hollywood video follows their lead and is still behind the game when in comparison. Netflix came into the rental scene and were the first to give us the "online" rental experience, and what happens next? Good old Blockbuster feels the need to compete, and I'm sure in their evil mind they'd love to crush Netflix.
We don't support Blockbuster for for simple business ethics and common morals. If you're happy with them, then good for you, keep on renting from the evil empire. Nevertheless, please show some respect for the fact that we don't support them for personal reasons. And please stop shilling the crap out of them every time anyone mentions their name! It's old news dude, we get it, you love Blockbuster and are happy with them. However, some of us don't support them for VALID reasons, as they do hold a track record of lawsuits from common consumers. So please, give it a rest -- you're happy with them, great! Now move on!
[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Apr 23, 2008]
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
June 2006
Tim, I'm just commenting here, like -you- and everyone else, and won't argue your preferences in liking Netflix and 'mom-and-pop' stores over Blockbuster.... excerpt for this - whenever either Netflix or a mom-and-pop can offer the value and quality of what I receive from the TOTAL ACCESS membership, then I would welcome supporting them primarily (as I do now w/Blockbuster).
You've know that competition is good for consumers, right? Well, I cannot find a better 'deal', 'membership', 'value', etc than the TOTAL ACCESS plan, and unlike you, I've never had an ethical problem with their business, so do not know any bad history as you've had with them (with the label 'evil empire'). Hey, I know people hate Microsoft, Sony, etc, but Blockbuster? Oh well, you learn something knew here often.
-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)
You've know that competition is good for consumers, right? Well, I cannot find a better 'deal', 'membership', 'value', etc than the TOTAL ACCESS plan, and unlike you, I've never had an ethical problem with their business, so do not know any bad history as you've had with them (with the label 'evil empire'). Hey, I know people hate Microsoft, Sony, etc, but Blockbuster? Oh well, you learn something knew here often.
-JIMI LOVE (the Voodoo Child)
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Member since:
March 2002
March 2002
Jimi Love,
What you're not getting is you're LOVE for Blockbuster isn't just getting old, IT IS OLD! Good God, YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE BLU-RAY SHILLS WE HAD JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO! You have made your point countless times and many of us are tired of your constant shilling of the company. Again, WE GET IT! MOVE THE F**K ON ALREADY!
What you're not getting is you're LOVE for Blockbuster isn't just getting old, IT IS OLD! Good God, YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE BLU-RAY SHILLS WE HAD JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO! You have made your point countless times and many of us are tired of your constant shilling of the company. Again, WE GET IT! MOVE THE F**K ON ALREADY!
