Thursday, April 24, 2008
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August 2007
What do you pay for gas guys? We pay $1.20 a Litre or about $5.00 a Gallon here in Canada.
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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JASON
uhhhhhh I wouldnt say the worst. I live in Ohio. Both of our states have been crushed by outSOURcing.
Okay, maybe Pennsylvania and Ohio are in the same boat.
I know the entire country is down, but this region (midwest) seems to be hit harder than most.Jason, looking to move
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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August 2007
August 2007
We all care about our impact on the environment! Agreed!
But this is the funniest satire ever. I don't know how that guy kept a straight face.
http://break.com/index/fck-the-earth-day.html
Language warning if you have little ones near by!
The guy kicking the plants is the best!
[Post edited by Ironbull on Apr 24, 2008]
But this is the funniest satire ever. I don't know how that guy kept a straight face.
http://break.com/index/fck-the-earth-day.html
Language warning if you have little ones near by!
The guy kicking the plants is the best!
[Post edited by Ironbull on Apr 24, 2008]
Thursday, April 24, 2008
Member since:
October 2007
October 2007
The problem with you is that people always blame, they never look for a way to fix the problem...blaming each other because we drive a truck (like me), a SUV, etc. is not the solution, it also isn't 'carpooling'...
Start a movement with a real solution instead of bitchin like little girls (no offense)...
Honestly, and it's the truth, once again, what most people (I can count me and a few of you out) want is to blame and have their hands clean...well, this is the year 2008, and we ALL are dirty...we can help avoid getting our hands dirty or we can just clean them and wait again until we get our hands dirty and clean them and wait and clean and wait and clean...
Start a movement with a real solution instead of bitchin like little girls (no offense)...
Honestly, and it's the truth, once again, what most people (I can count me and a few of you out) want is to blame and have their hands clean...well, this is the year 2008, and we ALL are dirty...we can help avoid getting our hands dirty or we can just clean them and wait again until we get our hands dirty and clean them and wait and clean and wait and clean...
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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October 2007
October 2007
YUP, I am blaming my GOVERMENT and there SPIN on the entire OIL PURGING problem. You read my thought on here earlier and that is 100% true. Ever since Katrina, they started using the FUTURES market to bump up the price of gas. Then the next year, NOAA predicted a bad Hurricane season (which did not pan out) and Gas prices went up again (Futures Market) This has now been a trend, when an Eskimo farts in Alaska, the price goes up because the release of Methane in the atmosphere in the coming months( that is satire but to the point).
Oil should not raise the price of Gas, Gas should raise the price of oil. They (Goverment) say that they have found a reserve in Montana, that is 10 times of any reserve we have here in the US. But they say they have to use vertical drilling (spin) so it will cost billions to to drill. they won't tap the Alaskan oil reserve (ecxuse) because they are worried about the whack job in Venezula boosting the price of his oil for the US.
In closing, like my Dad always said, if you have no control over the situation, then let it go. We need to drive, we will continue to drive and the Goverment has us by the STONES. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year pass the Tilanol
Oil should not raise the price of Gas, Gas should raise the price of oil. They (Goverment) say that they have found a reserve in Montana, that is 10 times of any reserve we have here in the US. But they say they have to use vertical drilling (spin) so it will cost billions to to drill. they won't tap the Alaskan oil reserve (ecxuse) because they are worried about the whack job in Venezula boosting the price of his oil for the US.
In closing, like my Dad always said, if you have no control over the situation, then let it go. We need to drive, we will continue to drive and the Goverment has us by the STONES. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year pass the Tilanol
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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December 2003
December 2003
Wow, did this thread heat up since I left off, yesterday!
Skyhawk,
That's a pretty ignorant and arogant statement. It's also really easy to make a statement like that when you aren't in a situation where you can't AFFORD to live somewhere else, or AFFORD to choose where you WANT to work, or AFFORD to give up the safety of using your own vehicle.
Would you want your wife commuting to work with the "thugs" on the bus? Maybe crime isn't as high in Canada, but, most of the inner city transit busses I've seen (and ridden personally, in different cities around the U.S.) are ridden by a lot of miscreants and or mentally unstable people. I would only ride (or allow my wife to ride) the bus if it was safe enough to do so.
If I'm putting 10,000 - 20,000 lbs. of polutants into the air to get my wife and myself safely to work each day, so that we can LIVE, until something changes, then sobeit.
Jason,
I agree, fossil fuels are being depleted, and they are not renewable, nor are they helping our polution situation. Maybe this is one possible answer:
(1) Tax the oil companies as you mentioned to pay the higher prices. (2) Keep the cost of fuel at current rates (AFTER taxing the oil companies) and use those procedes to fund the "Agressive Alternative Fuel or Technologies Act" (my idea), that has an expiration date!
In other words, set an expiration date of 15-20 years from now, where this fuel tax Act will expire, and the scientists or powers that be, HAVE TO have an alternative for fossil fuels (which would include national consumption inflation of energy usage). The auto manufacturers and refineries, would have to follow suit. I think if this was a mandate, we would figure out a way to make it happen. After all, necessity is the mother of all invention!
Wind generators and solar panel mandates, also an excellent idea.
Something else we, as Americans can do in the interim, or, at least a fairly large portion of us can, is follow China's example. They are essentially a "motorcycle society". Some people have cars, but the vast majority of vehicles there are motorcycles or scooters. Most of the scooters built today get 100 miles per gallon. Even the "sport bikes" get 40 - 60 miles per gallon! Think of the savings there, folks.
Tim,
I knew you couldn't stay away from this thread. After all, it wouldn't be a political thread, here at DVD Town, without "Timmaaaay" on the panel!
But, I disagree with you on your statement that carpooling isn't the answer. Ok, maybe it isn't "the" answer, but it's "an" answer. Carpooling is just a smaller version of public transportation. It still helps.
Taking action is what we're really talking about in this thread. You see those commercials, occasionally, where they say "If every person replaced ONE incandescent light bulb in their home, with an energy efficient flourescent bulb, we'd save X amount of pollutants in the air, or, it would save $X,000, or, it would be the equivelant of taking X,000 of cars off of the roads.
However, how many people actually REPLACE those bulbs? Or, how many people take the little extra time to recycle? Or, how many people get up a little earlier, and inconvenience themselves a little to "carpool"? Not enough.
Taking action is also the changing of our perspectives. If even a small change is not made in our own lives, how can we expect large change to be made in local and federal government, let alone global?
- Josh
[Post edited by Nachtkriechen on Apr 24, 2008]
Quote:
...anyone who is so poor that gas takes such a high proportion of their total income that even a doubling of gas prices would cause then to starve shouldn't have their own vehicle to begin with...
Skyhawk,
That's a pretty ignorant and arogant statement. It's also really easy to make a statement like that when you aren't in a situation where you can't AFFORD to live somewhere else, or AFFORD to choose where you WANT to work, or AFFORD to give up the safety of using your own vehicle.
Would you want your wife commuting to work with the "thugs" on the bus? Maybe crime isn't as high in Canada, but, most of the inner city transit busses I've seen (and ridden personally, in different cities around the U.S.) are ridden by a lot of miscreants and or mentally unstable people. I would only ride (or allow my wife to ride) the bus if it was safe enough to do so.
If I'm putting 10,000 - 20,000 lbs. of polutants into the air to get my wife and myself safely to work each day, so that we can LIVE, until something changes, then sobeit.
Jason,
I agree, fossil fuels are being depleted, and they are not renewable, nor are they helping our polution situation. Maybe this is one possible answer:
(1) Tax the oil companies as you mentioned to pay the higher prices. (2) Keep the cost of fuel at current rates (AFTER taxing the oil companies) and use those procedes to fund the "Agressive Alternative Fuel or Technologies Act" (my idea), that has an expiration date!
In other words, set an expiration date of 15-20 years from now, where this fuel tax Act will expire, and the scientists or powers that be, HAVE TO have an alternative for fossil fuels (which would include national consumption inflation of energy usage). The auto manufacturers and refineries, would have to follow suit. I think if this was a mandate, we would figure out a way to make it happen. After all, necessity is the mother of all invention!
Wind generators and solar panel mandates, also an excellent idea.
Something else we, as Americans can do in the interim, or, at least a fairly large portion of us can, is follow China's example. They are essentially a "motorcycle society". Some people have cars, but the vast majority of vehicles there are motorcycles or scooters. Most of the scooters built today get 100 miles per gallon. Even the "sport bikes" get 40 - 60 miles per gallon! Think of the savings there, folks.
Tim,
I knew you couldn't stay away from this thread. After all, it wouldn't be a political thread, here at DVD Town, without "Timmaaaay" on the panel!
But, I disagree with you on your statement that carpooling isn't the answer. Ok, maybe it isn't "the" answer, but it's "an" answer. Carpooling is just a smaller version of public transportation. It still helps.
Taking action is what we're really talking about in this thread. You see those commercials, occasionally, where they say "If every person replaced ONE incandescent light bulb in their home, with an energy efficient flourescent bulb, we'd save X amount of pollutants in the air, or, it would save $X,000, or, it would be the equivelant of taking X,000 of cars off of the roads.
However, how many people actually REPLACE those bulbs? Or, how many people take the little extra time to recycle? Or, how many people get up a little earlier, and inconvenience themselves a little to "carpool"? Not enough.
Taking action is also the changing of our perspectives. If even a small change is not made in our own lives, how can we expect large change to be made in local and federal government, let alone global?
- Josh
[Post edited by Nachtkriechen on Apr 24, 2008]
Thursday, April 24, 2008
Member since:
March 2002
March 2002
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But, I disagree with you on your statement that carpooling isn't the answer.
Where did I say that?
I mentioned a Park n' Ride that would be totally pointless for my current situation, but dude, I have no issues with carpooling, and for that matter, no issues with Park n' Rides, either. I just don't have one close to my drive to work. I did carpool for a while with a friend I work with, the problem is sometimes our job keeps us in the office longer for one guy and not the other. Then there's the needing to stop at the store on the way home, but the other guy just wants to get home. In other words, it can be inconvenient but i'm not against it. If i said i was, i must have been drunk.
[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Apr 24, 2008]
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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March 2002
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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January 2008
OMG gas just hit $1.25 a litre!!! That's like $4 a gallon!
Thursday, April 24, 2008
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March 2002
March 2002
It's about $3.40 on the average here in Phoenix, AZ. Then again, I am the master of the obvious. lol
