Re: GTA4

Wolvinator, you are right, we have kids attacking teachers just to get it shown on YouTube. Kids attacking adults on public transportation, kids attacking everything and everyone. mvckalel, I'm not saying that video games is the problem but it's part of the culture of problem kids and and the parents are sometimes naieve, unaware, or in alot of cases unable to control the situation.

[Post edited by tony1569 on Apr 30, 2008]

Amen, MVC.

guns dont kill people. kids that play video games,who then go out and purchase a gun to kill someone with,kill people.

I laugh at the people when they use the phrase GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE The sole reason behind the invention of the gun was to kill. The Second Amendment has so much blood on it that it would probably take 200 yr ban on all guns to get them off the street.

Tony is right. It's the nudity in this console game that makes normal kids go to school and shoot their classmates. <Hey, I'm just trying to get into the "conservative mindset!>

I think the issue is a bit more complex than a lot of people think.

I have a weid feeling that Hannibal Lecter, Jack The Ripper, Timothy McVeigh, Hilter, Mouseleni all played GTA before they went on rampage.

Tony... "Thou shalt not kill" is meant towards murdering other humans (with laws too), and not the 'object' that can be used to murder another, whether it's by using a person's hands, gun, knife, bow/arrow, sword, spear, scissors, poison, gasoline, fertilizer, box cutters... any/all other objects and things capable of killing. And a gun cannot kill anything, unless it's USED. If one breaks the law and kills another unjustly, it's the person who's prosecuted, not the 'object'. Humans are moral creatures, and capable of good and evil. A gun is a piece of machinery, and if one abuses it's use, and commits crimes, it's the PERSON who's responsible, not the object.

If you don't care for the 'right to bear arms' (second amendment) that's your free choice. But others obviously disagree, and the USA has had this legal right for a long time, so if you want to see this right removed, you would need to become a legislator and try your efforts where our laws are made... (and upheld by the Supreme Court - 2nd Amendment). And maybe not watch movies and TV shows that feature the use of gun weaponry...?

Edit: maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe you live in Canada (like Skyhawk, ReggieP and others?) - I honestly don't know what personal gun rights Canadians have these days (if any, other than for hunting as Skyhawk previously mentioned).

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[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on Apr 30, 2008]

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I honestly don't know what personal gun rights Canadians have these days (if any, other than for hunting as Skyhawk previously mentioned).

FYI other rights include collectors (my Dad is one), as well as other firearm related sports like target shooting, trap shooting, etc. Only rifles and shotguns can be used to hunt, but handguns are allowed for collecting and target shooting. And target shooting with handguns is only allowed at licensed indoor facilities especially built for this purpose.

In Canada other weapons are completely banned - including bombs (even little homemade ones) and exploding projectiles such as shells and missles of any size. Certain gasses and vehicles for their deployment are also completely banned for regular folk in Canada - including things like sarin and mustard type gasses. If that's not enough, included in this ban are many biological agents. Radioactive substances like plutonium are tightly controlled here.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on May 1, 2008]

Back to the game.
Been playing a little more and you can watch tv. Of all the sick and disgusting things in the GTA series, I think watching tv in a video game is the worst. Anyway they have a Ricky Gervais stand up which is hilarious.

OK back to the game, my 15 yr old son tried to buy the previous version of this game but was firmly turned down by a sales rep at gamestop. I've actually seen the game play on the previous version and it seems like a bunch of running around beating people up, car jackings, gang shootings, sex, and murder. Now it's on a next gen system. The graphics are now more graphic. GAME OF THE YEAR. I remember when they tried to get Mortal Kombat banned.