New rumor puts Blu-ray drive into a XBOX 360

Those damn Microsoft fuckers better come out with a BluRay add on. I want some damn HD movies for God's sakes!!

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Those damn Microsoft fuckers better come out with a BluRay add on. I want some damn HD movies for God's sakes!!

A false rumor. Microsoft doesn't plan to support Blu-Ray playback in Vista or Xbox, ever.

Why do you think that? I personally feel it is a Consortium issue. Sony feels like they are bigger than they consortium

and THIS is why the PS3 is better...

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=182288

Microsoft issued an official denial for the 1 millionth time.

...and Microsoft always tells the truth (heavy sarcasm).

They never admit anything until the day they launch something. An add on wouldn't hurt anyone. I see them building it in only if its one of the available choices just like the elite is available but not the standard box.

[Post edited by wolvinator on May 5, 2008]

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and THIS is why the PS3 is better...

Sorry Bladerunner1, the PS3 is not better. I don't think it will ever be. There are too many variables in which the PS3 lacks to make it a great console. It is good, but when you look at the dynamics of what the Xbox 360 can do and has done, that leaves the engineers at Sony with much work to do. Sony PS3 claim to fame is the BR drive, but that is about it. The Cell chip, is impressive but only a fraction of it potential can be used. I can blabble all day long, but why bother. Go buy yourself a 360 for gaming and then tell me that the PS3 is better. It will never happen. I didn't buy a 360 for the HD DVD drive or movies, I bought it for gaming.

Anyways, do we really need another posting about NO Blu-Ray drive in a XBOX 360?

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...and Microsoft always tells the truth (heavy sarcasm).

Doing Blu-Ray is like dealing with a terrorist to Microsoft. It's against their corporate policy thanks to one specific component of it, namely BD-Java.

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An add on wouldn't hurt anyone.

It hurts Microsoft. Nor is Bill Gates stupid enough to pay $60 Blu-Ray royalty.

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I see them building it in only if its one of the available choices just like the elite is available but not the standard box.

Microsoft actually spent a lot of its own money to build the HD-DVD player software because doing so helped its business interests of promoting its own technology.

This is not the same case with Blu-Ray, Microsoft's best interest is to kill Blu-Ray ASAP by whatever it means. Expect to see the next revision of Xbox with a fat hard drive to promote Xbox Live HD downloading. But no Blu-Ray playback in Microsoft console, ever.

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Anyways, do we really need another posting about NO Blu-Ray drive in a XBOX 360?

Sourse of this Xbox Blu-Ray rumor is probably Sony. Spreading such false rumor deters consumers from buying Xbox 360 in anticipation of a new model. Of course Microsoft does it parts to issue official denials the next day, but it won't go away...

Good point Deadmeat. I hadn't thought of that. That would help Sony to slow xbox sales. Consumer ---> "I'm waiting for the Blu Ray version, then I'll buy one." Doesn't come then they buy a Playstation.

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It is good, but when you look at the dynamics of what the Xbox 360 can do and has done,

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What makes the XBOX better? I see your words but there nothing to back up what you're saying. Give me something that would make me say ok you're right. What has the 360 done but fail 33% of the time, failed at supporting any HD codecs, fail at not including Wifi, failed at poor attemps at backward compatability. The only reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released first.

[Post edited by tony1569 on May 5, 2008]

Hey everyone... just what if Nintendo decides to add a Blu-ray drive to a future generation of the Wii game system...? It's a possibility, right? Then what would Microsoft do to counter - ALSO add a Blu drive too??

Think about it. If (and when ) Blu-ray becomes a popular success in the marketplace (players, recorders etc), even maybe one day as popular as DVD(?), it will put pressure for competitors to add it's HD quality to their own systems (now that HD-DVD is dead), and by then I would think it would be a no-brainer to adopt Blu-ray tech into the body of the various game systems (or the add-on option).

Remember, we are now in the (growing) first stage of HIGH-DEFINITION (TV, disc, etc), and Blu-ray can only get more popular in use.


Above image - Mitsubishi and Pioneer has announced that they have been working on the development of a new Blu-Ray disc (cheaper to produce) using a new technique similar to the one used for DVD-R and CD-R. Well, we can expect to have more affordable Blu-ray disc in the near future.




~ One day perhaps...?


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The only reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it was released first.

Then why has the 360 outsold the PS3 in the US since its inception?
Because a consumer does not care what has been out longer, only what is the better gaming option. It is still the 360.

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failed at poor attemps at backward compatability

Interesting because I can play a lot more xbox games on my 360 than PS2 games on my PS3, which sony has just given up on BC.

[Post edited by richiro33 on May 5, 2008]

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Spreading such false rumor deters consumers from buying Xbox 360 in anticipation of a new model.

Wow, I didn`t think you thought Blu-ray playback was that important to console gamers. Well if that`s true, Microsoft better come out with an XBox Blu-ray addon ASAP!

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What makes the XBOX better?

It is a much much better console to write games for and makes developers happy.

Happy developers make better games.

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Wow, I didn`t think you thought Blu-ray playback was that important to console gamers.

Blu-ray is very important to console gamers. How else can you explain why an inferior console such as the PS3 gets any sales?

You're right. But easy isn't better. It's easier to port over a 360 game because the system is not as powerful as the PS3. You could never port over a PS3 to 360. Case in point GTA IV. Two slightly different versions of the game had to be developed that's whay the PS3 version has been reviewed as being better than the 360 version.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/04/27/the-reviews-are-in-grand-theft-auto-4-just-looks-sexier-on-ps3-than-xbox-360/

or

http://www.n4g.com/News-140505.aspx

[Post edited by tony1569 on May 5, 2008]

I don't think anybody is arguing with the PS3s graphics capabilities. The PS3 is better in that regard however GTA 4 would have been PS3 exclusive for 6 months had the development not been as difficult as it was.

BTW
Best graphics 1. PS3 2. 360 3. Wii
NA Sales 1. Wii 2. 360 3. PS3
sucks when numbers get in the way huh?

NO it does'nt suck because I know which one gets play in my home. I don't care about what others have because I don't pay their mortgage.

You will be paying for other peoples mortgages one way or another when the Dems get done "solving" this mortgage crisis.

Well here it goes. I don't feel like explaining myself again, so I will re-post my previous post from the identical thread going on in the forum. Sorry tony here it is again for you.

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I will just say that the XBOX 360 is probably the most powerful gaming machine on the planet. If you to actually study it's technolgy you will find that it excells in areas that the PS3. On paper, the PS3 is more powerful. In reality, it’s quite inferior to the 360. Without boring everyone here with the details, the triple core CPU that the XBOX 360 has are currently easier to take advantage of than the SPU’s on the PS3. If Sony actually spend billions on R&D they probably could map the potential of the SPU, but is it worth it? The GPU is more powerful. It has more powerful fillrate, and far more pixel and vertex processing horsepower. It all boils down to memory and the type of memory MS invested into the XBOX. The architecture of pixel and vertex procesing allow the XBOX to do things that the PS3 could only dream of. If you were to run that same vertex shader on the PS3 you would find that the PS3 could not adapt, were the XBOX 360 thrives!!! The 360 also has a clever new way rendering high definition anti aliased back buffers. To accomplish the same effect on PS3 is prohibitively expensive. That would explain Blu-Ray's adaptaion in the console. They are relying on native resolutions of the format to carry out menial tasks.

Wow, two identical threads, with the same bantering again...

[Post edited by ReaggieP on May 5, 2008]

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For most reviewers, the Playstation 3 version shone brighter than the 360 because the 360 version suffered from worse frame rate issues as well as draw distances.

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The PS3 is generally agreed to be slightly more powerful (or powerful in different ways than the 360) which tend to explain frame rate issues that occur between cross-platform titles.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/04/27/the-reviews-are-in-grand-theft-auto-4-just-looks-sexier-on-ps3-than-xbox-360/

Reaggie,
The PS3 is just fine as a game console. And it plays blu-ray...and does it well. The thread is about blu-ray in the xbox anyway, not about which console is better with games now. Like I have stated a million times myself on here....THE TECH. KNOWN AS BLU-RAY IS NEW! IT WILL TAKE TIME TO MASTER!
Why or how can you argue with this? When games were first thrown on DVD did they look as good as they do now? When movies were first thrown on DVD, did they look as good as they do now? Patience is a virtue my friend.

"THE MONSTER INSIDE THE PS3 SHALL BE UNLEASHED...BANK ON IT!" (10 year life cycle)

[Post edited by bladerunner1 on May 5, 2008]

To hell with Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and whoever else makes game consoles. I'm getting an Atari 2600.

Space Invaders here I come!

I'm kidding of course but man some of those Atari games were so simple and yet so much fun.

[Post edited by Falcon01 on May 5, 2008]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the obvious reason why adding Blu-Ray would be a mistake for MS. MS has been pushing it's high-def downloads via XBL like crazy and that is their current focus and will be for some time to come. So why on earth would they develop a drive that A) Would require them to pay royalties to Sony B) take away potential sales for them from the XBL marketplace.

Yeah. I already mentioned that on the other Xbox thread. Nobody listens on this thing. Their cash cow is DD. your right.

Sooner or later they will have to incorperate a Blu-ray drive in their next generation XBOX because of space requirements.

You knwo what I can see MS doing. I can see them roll out a new console with a massive storage drive, and you buy the DVD-9 game in the store, and if you want the expansion module, you download it. That's how they will make their money. Expansion modules on top of the base game, just like they did in the computer game days.

Sorry blade. I wasn't rying to be too rough on the PS3, but like you said it is going to take Sony some time and money to actually master the potential of the console.

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I don't think anybody is arguing with the PS3s graphics capabilities

Exactly, PS3 is much weaker than Xbox 360 graphics wise, this much is agreed among programmers.

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The PS3 is just fine as a game console.

Tell that to frustrated programmers and they will punch you.

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Sooner or later they will have to incorperate a Blu-ray drive in their next generation XBOX because of space requirements.

There are half-dozen $20 red-laser drive formats capable of delivering 20 GB per layer to choose from.

Deadmeat,
After the game programmer attempts to kick my ass...I will say to him..."TRY HARDER".

(It's not like you people make your living slinging dirt or anything)

If Sony hadnt been so concerned with bluray and let all of their "exclusives" get away, we would not be talking about this right now.

[Post edited by bladerunner1 on May 6, 2008]

When I finish a game's single player missions I want to enjoy a lag free eternity of online gaming with real people. PS3 cannot come close to the online network gaming of xbox live. Yeah, you have to pay a cheap yearly membership to play 360 online but its worth every penny. Thats the biggest reason why I think someone should pick a 360 over PS3(when Microsoft said online gaming is the consoles future people laughed, boy were they wrong to scoff). Besides that, on "same game titles" I remember gamespot.com comparing and saying that most games came out looking better on the xbox. Finaly, I havn't seen a game on the PS3 yet that I would want to buy. All the good ones are available on the 360 or are only on the 360.

Microsoft may be an evil, small company destroyer but they are the lesser of two evils.

[Post edited by wolvinator on May 6, 2008]

The only things that PS3 has that is better are HDD standard and More disc space. That BD space hasn't been put to good use now, and the disc drive is slow. 360 is a superior console, they just needed to buy smaller CPU and GPU chips from the start and they should have not made the core/arcade consoles. Without HDD standard, devs can't make some games cache on 360 so some games have texture pop up.