> Confirmed - Toshiba paid Paramount to drop Blu-ray (in 2007)

FYI...

> VIACOM Earnings Report Confirms Paramount Payout from Toshiba (to drop Blu-ray in 2007) - followed by reader comments



~ Viacom group of companies...




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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on May 6, 2008]

... Who even cares any more? I mean was this really a secret? We all knew... who didn't?

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... Who even cares any more? I mean was this really a secret? We all knew... who didn't?

Yup, somethin that is learned in business 101. Just ask sony. hah

psst...Love....Cedar Fair owns the old Paramount theme parks

You would have to be very naive to think that Toshiba didn't pay off Paramount. Its just like the Blu-ray fanboys who think Warner chose Blu-ray. Movie studios didn't give a damn about this format war, it was only a strain on consumers and CE manufacturers. The CE manufacturers are desperate to make sure optical disc for movies don't end up like music CDs. they want $$$ and they won't make any if downloads take off.

Also...



More on this story from EngadgetHD's website (followed by reader comments) -

Although it's all water under the bridge now, we still find it interesting that Viacom's recent earnings statement confirmed that Paramount received compensation for dumping Blu-ray. But contrary to the New York Times article, Variety is reporting that it was only $29 Million, instead of $150 Million. This is of course only cash, and it is still entirely possible that the other $121 Million included future revenues that didn't materialize once things fell apart, but we have a hard time believing Paramount received that much in promotional services or free replication. And while the Warner payoff rumors weren't from a source as sound as the NYT, we'll still be keeping an eye on revenue statements from Engadget and Warner's shared parent company all the same.

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

W-H-O C-A-R-E-S

Sony paid off studios when it launched bluray to only release on bluray. Why? Well because bluray was an incomplete product and they had to pay off the studios to not release on HD DVD so that bluray would have a fighting chance.

You tell me. Which is worse? Releasing an incomplete product but marketing it to the public as a better product than HD DVD, or HD DVD paying Paramount to try and make things even?

Sony is worse than the evil empire in this format war and the consumers got duped big time. Now we have to wait for profile 2.0 players to become affordable so we can enjoy all the same features we have with HD DVD from the beginning. Yayyyyyyy.

I believe this can be filed in the "Well duh!" category

i'm going to sit out of the current HD optical disc cycle. i've hated sony for a long time now (before there was even such a thing as blu-ray), so .!.. to that company.

[Post edited by posters5 on May 6, 2008]

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W-H-O C-A-R-E-S

Exactly!

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"well duh!"

Exactly!

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Master of the Obvious!

Exactly!

[Post edited by Tim Raynor on May 6, 2008]

So now posting FUD and whatever you call it, Hendrix???

LAME

Go watch Iron Man...again, if you have already...

loverboy =

mvckalel ignorantly said -

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"So now posting FUD and whatever you call it, Hendrix??? - LAME"

So, I make a mention of a BUSINESS report concerning Toshiba and Paramount 2007 financial agreements - you know, FACTS - and yet you ignorantly claim it's FUD...? I think YOU are the one being lame here.

I gave NO commentary - just a link to a financial report of PAST HISTORY, and yet you claim FUD... mvckalel, please don't become a whining chode like posters5 (Eddie) - OK? Because I actually appreciate your comments from time to time. But please avoid the chodes (Eddie, etc).

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If there was any doubt by anyone that you've always been a Blu-fanboy hiding behind a "purple" disguise, this thread has erased any doubts LH. WE ALWAYS KNEW that Toshiba paid Paramount and Dreamworks. Shoot, even Dreamworks openly said that the were "very well compensated" when they were waiting to hear from Toshiba about continuing their HD-DVD support after Toshiba threw the towel.

Just the same way Sony paid 20th Century Fox (and possibly WB) to stay with their flawed (imo) blu format. Welcome to corporate America LH.

This thread is irrelevant, what YOU are doing is trying to 'trash' HD DVD with 'news' that they paid Paramount, which, WE ALL assumed happened...we are not that naive, well, not really...

Too bad I don't know that many technical terms as many of you do, or else I wouldn't be that ignorant...yeah right...

Oh, by the way, it would be a good idea if you posted ALL the links of stories where Sony (sorry, the blu-ray group ) paid Fox, Disney, WB, etc...

wii-lite claimed -

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"Just the same way Sony paid 20th Century Fox (and possibly WB) to stay with their flawed (imo) blu format. Welcome to corporate America LH."

and mvckalel requested -

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"Oh, by the way, it would be a good idea if you posted ALL the links of stories where Sony (sorry, the blu-ray group ) paid Fox, Disney, WB, etc..."

mvckalel, I'll happily be the first to post a linked story of KNOWN PAYOUTS (not speculation) if you or anyone else can direct me to a reliable (true) source of financial-reported information. If you understand business, companies have to provide quarterly declarations of their income, expenses, etc, and this story is the FIRST that I've seen where we now KNOW FOR SURE that a payout was made from Toshiba to Viacom (Paramount's parent).

So... where is the financial declaration of Sony's rumored "payouts" to those other companies? Has it been done by Sony Japan, or Sony's USA division? Do you have a link to definite financial website info, and NOT just speculation? If not, then it's you mvckalel who is spreading FUD.

Surely, if some Blu-ray hater (like we see here often) really knows the financial report info, it would be posted as news somewhere. But I have yet to find anything definite myself, of a possible Sony payout, above and beyond the normal fees incurred by members of the BRDA and promotional expenses (free discs, discounts on players etc).

And wii-lite... yes, I now own more BDs than HD-DVDs, but have no plans to sell either of my 2 HD-DVD players, nor the 60+ HD-DVD discs I own. Last week, I added Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, and King of California to my collection, having found another great deal for both on eBay's HALF.com website, for less than $10 each. And I'll continue to hunt for bargains. Plus, one of my favorites, Touching the Void is available as an HD-DVD import, and if doesn't arrive on Blu-ray by June/July, I'm going to buy the HD-DVD while it's still available, as I'd hate to see it go out/print, and miss out on seeing it in hi-def.

And I regularly RENT HD-DVDs thru my online Blockbuster TOTAL ACCESS membership (highly recommended).

EDIT - By the way mvckalel, I totally agree with your criticism of Die Hard 4.0, giving McClane some type of 'super hero' status against the intense pain he would have suffered jumping out of that plane onto the freeway - ridiculous (but entertaining). I still enjoyed the film and own the Blu-ray (got it for $15 on sale in March).

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~ LaserDisc, DVD, HD-DVD, and Blu-ray ~

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on May 7, 2008]

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And I regular RENT HD-DVDs thru my online Blockbuster TOTAL ACCESS membership (highly recommended).

Nothing more chillin' than shillin'!

More salad anyone?






Oh wait, let's throw one in for TOTAL ACCESS!

Don't forget...

add some salt to your spew salad...

Say, is "John" on the lowest rung of that dial? Don't think I don't notice these things.

John

Gee, now John is even picking up in-salts.

john,

alas, your name is used as a nickname for many bad things, including:

-a prostitute's customer

-the toilet



eddie

Let's not forget the "Dear John" letter -- the most dreaded letter known to a man!

Where is my fear? Where is my uncertainty? Where is my doubt? Or where am I spreading that? In that case, it would be kinda like slander...

Come on, stand by your acts and your comments, there's nothing worse than someone who doesn't...

Oh, and ironically, I did have a salad for lunch, lol...go figure that one out...