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wii lite awesome post!!!! people dont realize how much the industry has copyed nintendo. nintendo pretty much invented the industry we know today.

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...also a "first", soon to be eventually copied in future consoles by Nintendo and Microsoft...

Well, BD is a "first soon to be copied" only due to circumstance and not due to innovation. If HD-DVD had won then MS would not be in need of "copying" BD. Also if MS releases a BD drive for the XBOX 360 it'll only be for movie playback purpose and not for game media purpose and I doubt MS would release a BD drive anytime soon. I think is already established that if MS releases a Blu-drive it won't be until their next console so that debunks your "soon to be copied" theory.

As for Nintendo , Dude, if Nintendo hasn't even adopted DVD format in their consoles what makes you think they'll adopt the media format of their MAIN COMPETITOR!!! As we all know the Wii is Nintendo's second disk media console, but what few people realize is that both the GCN and the Wii use a proprietary DVD-like media and not a full DVD media. Nintendo did this in order to keep productions costs low by not paying rights to the DVD Forum. So again, what makes you think Nintendo will pay Sony, of all people, rights to use their format.

Nintendo knows better than to be in business again with Sony. Should I remind all of you Sony/PS fanboys that the only reason your blind "fanboyism" even exists today is thanks to Nintendo. Nintendo and Sony got in business to come out with an optical drive for the SNES but when Sony brought the contract to the table Nintendo read the fine print and saw that Sony was trying to keep most of the revenues from the attachment and the medium sold. So Nintendo pulled out leaving Sony with the kits and the basis to create what's know today as the PlayStation. This actually helped Sony who at the time was at the verge (just as recently, again) of Chapter 11.

Is time for you Sony/PS/BD fanboys to burst out of your bubble and see the reality that just because BD won it doesn't mean that the masses and the industry in general are going to rush to adopt that incomplete format. As a matter of fact, with the success of Wii, is more likely that Sony will be the one copying Nintendo's direction and perhaps adding more real interactivity to their future games and consoles.

I have a 360 and a psp but i played the wii over the weekend on that boxing game that comes with it and that was fun. But even better felt like a pretty good work out. If I had kids I would want them to play that instead of just sitting. I am considering getting a wii now to get some exersise. But then again they are so hard to find in a store

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wii lite awesome post!!!! people dont realize how much the industry has copyed nintendo. nintendo pretty much invented the industry we know today.

I hate to be the annoying old timer here but Atari was first. Doesn't anybody remember space inavders? Atari was the first to introduce the Game Cartridge way before Nintendo or Sega even existed. All Nintendo did was improve on what technology was already available, Sega followed shrotly after and actually had better graphics at the time. If anything, you could say Nintendo was the first to stimulate the market and took off leaps and bounds ahead of its competition, but they were not the first nor did they invent the industry -- however, they did refine it.

PC Gaming vs Game Consoles:

This is really a matter of personal choice. You can go find all the graphs you want and note how the PC gaming is declining, but what's really declining are the games that are better suited for game consoles. PC gaming has gone the route of multiplayer, role playing games (World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Star Wars Galaxies, Age of Conan, etc.) and many have been very successful. I really don't see it as a decline, but more as an overall shift in the PC gaming market. Progress takes time.

For me, I prefer the PC gaming because the fun and adventure can go on for years. PC MMO games constantly have updates, and addition patches to keep things interesting. What makes them far more rewarding for entertainment is that they really have no end. Sure, you can level your guy up to the max, but it doesn't mean the game is over, as there is always more adventures to play solo or with other players. Now, don't get me wrong, I love game consoles and have wasted many hours on them, but it gets boring when you beat a game in couple weeks and have to move onto the next thing available. Console games have endings and overall there's always somthing you have to beat to become the ultimate champion. Once you beat the game, the fun is gone and you begin to find most games are very routine. So for me, the PC gaming experience is a lot more challenging to the senses and much more rewarding in entertianment value.

The biggest problem with PC gaming is the overall expense. I mean, if you want a good gaming machine, it's about the expense of buying 4 to 6 PS3s (depending on what you want to spend). However, on the plus side, you do wind up with a kick-ass machine that can multi-task some very heavy resource hog applications without a problem. Plus, many of them are equiped with monster motherboards that can handle the next gen upgrades. Therefore, you have a pretty good investment that will last a lot longer then your standard office PC. Other issues may be hidden costs, such as high-speed connection and all the popular recent MMO games are about $15 a month for each game -- so choose the game that interests you the most. However, and the way I see it, I was spending more than that just tradding in games for new ones every month or two. And high-speed, I already have it as I need it for the internet, so really not a hidden cost.

[Post edited by Tim Raynor on Jun 4, 2008]

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Is time for you Sony/PS/BD fanboys to burst out of your bubble

Relax dude, I never said anything negative against your Wii. We even bought our daughter one last year, and she loves it. But the Wii is useless for me because it does not support Blu-ray playback, nor even serve as a media center, and it also does not have 1080p output to upconvert standard DVDs.

But I don't play console games. I'm more like Tim who enjoys an occasional PC game. Therefore the innovations in the PS3 are of more value to ME, and the innovations in the Wii offer more value to YOU!

So you can stop being insulting now. Sheesh!

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tim raynor

Im talking about the state of gaming today all of the innovative stuff came from nintendo not atari! everything nintendo has came out with over the years has been copyed example ... rumble, 3d, wireless controller, motion controll, all pretty much the industry standard. atari wasnt the first gaming console either, In 1972, the first commercial video game console that could be played in the home, the Odyssey was released by Magnavox and designed by Ralph Baer.(i had to look it up lol)

[Post edited by Scionguy05 on Jun 4, 2008]

Movies were already made since the early 1900s!!!

The only thing directors like Lucas, Spielberg, Coppola, Cameron...etc... did were improve on them!!!



Dude, who cares for a game in 1080p? I mean, really, if you suck or are good at a game, it will be the same in 480i or 1080p...

Great, no, EXCELLENT post wii-lite...Nintendo is back with a great product, and all the other console fanboys can say is that the Wii is lame, or not enough, with bad graphics, not good games...COME ON!! Do you fanboys have a GOOD argument????? Still waiting!!!

No need to make an argument when you did for us. You know Ford made on of the worlds first autos and the assembly line was really innovative. Does that have anything to do with who makes the best auto in 2008? For you the Wii might be great, for me not so much. I require a strong online element like xbox live,.I have a HDTV and demand a console that can take advantage of my theater system. I also desire quality games that don't have mario or zelda in the title, no offense just not my thing. I'm sure you think the Wii is great and thats fine, but don't all the sudden pretend that there isn't such a thing a technical advancements outside of the ones nintendo has brought to the table. Xbox Live, PS3 Home, GTA4, Gears of War, Metal Gear, Grand Trusimo, Forza 2, Oblivion, Halo 3, Heck even Portal could not have been done on a Wii.

Why do people have to justify to others about things they bought. I have a SNES emulator on my PC along with a Genesis emulator and enjoy many old school games. I like the PS3 because honestly I like new things and what they offer. Personally there is but so much Mario that I can take. And as far as compatability issues (someone really had to dig for that one) with the PS3 there are none to my knowledge because every PS1 and PS2 game that I've ever played on my PS3 works fine. It's either you buy a unit with BC or not. Wii-lite you made some good points for you reasons behind liking the wii but for me they are not selling points for me to buy one, but if it can help with my arthritis than.........

[Post edited by tony1569 on Jun 4, 2008]