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That's a good point Eddie, and I'm aware of how much Lucas admired Kurosawa's works (and he's admitted to using ideas from the legendary Japanese director's films), but still the final product of STAR WARS was not done by Kurosawa obviously ( 
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Films, songs, etc inspire others to for their creativity. But the quality of work done by Lucas in STAR WARS (everything involved now) is absolutely comparable to that of Kurosawa's work (and I've seen a few of his films - very good, yet very slow-moving too).
And many of us know how Lucas has helped to publicize the works of Kurosawa over the last few decades to USA audiences (often being an executive producer behind the scenes in getting the films distributed here, along with his friend Francis Ford Coppola, who Lucas has acknowledged was his mentor in film directing).
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), but by a young Hollywood independent 'maverick'-type - GEORGE LUCAS.Films, songs, etc inspire others to for their creativity. But the quality of work done by Lucas in STAR WARS (everything involved now) is absolutely comparable to that of Kurosawa's work (and I've seen a few of his films - very good, yet very slow-moving too).
And many of us know how Lucas has helped to publicize the works of Kurosawa over the last few decades to USA audiences (often being an executive producer behind the scenes in getting the films distributed here, along with his friend Francis Ford Coppola, who Lucas has acknowledged was his mentor in film directing).
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i'm not stating that the "star wars" movies are lame because they draw elements from other movies...they're lame because they're lame on their own merits, period. they take cool things from kurosawa's career and turn them into trash. (N)
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Ok, daddy is having a senior moment, can someone please tell me what "CGI" means? 
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Eddie said -
Well, that's your opinion...
But I doubt you'll find others who feel that the SW films are basically 'lame' or 'trash'. Some parts (or elements) are weak, granted, but overall are very popular, enjoyable, and have sold well on home video, as I'd bet that a majority of VHS/LaserDisc/DVD owners (WORLDWIDE) have at least one of the SW films in their library... but would they have any by Kurosawa?
How often would a person sit thru a Kurosawa film, vs watching one of the 6 SW films again? Hmmm... 
Adjusted for inflation, I believe STAR WARS is the 2nd highest grossing theatrical movie in history (behind Gone With the Wind). Another thing, what's the highest grossing Japanese film of all time (Gojira?), and do any Japanese films even appear among the Top 200 (in grosses) - ? Hmmm...
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"i'm not stating that the "star wars" movies are lame because they draw elements from other movies...they're lame because they're lame on their own merits, period. they take cool things from kurosawa's career and turn them into trash."
Well, that's your opinion...
But I doubt you'll find others who feel that the SW films are basically 'lame' or 'trash'. Some parts (or elements) are weak, granted, but overall are very popular, enjoyable, and have sold well on home video, as I'd bet that a majority of VHS/LaserDisc/DVD owners (WORLDWIDE) have at least one of the SW films in their library... but would they have any by Kurosawa?
How often would a person sit thru a Kurosawa film, vs watching one of the 6 SW films again? Hmmm... Adjusted for inflation, I believe STAR WARS is the 2nd highest grossing theatrical movie in history (behind Gone With the Wind). Another thing, what's the highest grossing Japanese film of all time (Gojira?), and do any Japanese films even appear among the Top 200 (in grosses) - ? Hmmm..._____________
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FYI...
> CGI - Computer-generated imagery
Bwaa ha ha!!!! LMAO!!!
SUCKER! I love it when someone falls for my shinanigans!
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loverboy,
james cameron's "titanic" (1997) made more money (not adjusted for inflation) in the u.s. and canada than any other movie ever. does this make "titanic" the best movie of all time? no. (the same applies to "gone with the wind" if you want to adjust for inflation.)
popularity only means that something is easily understood by a majority of people. popularity isn't automatically indicate of quality, though popularity and quality are not mutually exclusive. (for example, "the godfather" was a blockbuster at the box office and is also a pretty good movie.) on the flip side, you have "citizen kane", which was a box-office bomb but is frequently cited as the best movie ever made.
that being said, the "star wars" movies are for people who just want to sit there and fantasize about the possible uses of "the force" (maybe yanking off a hot chick's clothes from three feet away?).
eddie
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james cameron's "titanic" (1997) made more money (not adjusted for inflation) in the u.s. and canada than any other movie ever. does this make "titanic" the best movie of all time? no. (the same applies to "gone with the wind" if you want to adjust for inflation.)
popularity only means that something is easily understood by a majority of people. popularity isn't automatically indicate of quality, though popularity and quality are not mutually exclusive. (for example, "the godfather" was a blockbuster at the box office and is also a pretty good movie.) on the flip side, you have "citizen kane", which was a box-office bomb but is frequently cited as the best movie ever made.
that being said, the "star wars" movies are for people who just want to sit there and fantasize about the possible uses of "the force" (maybe yanking off a hot chick's clothes from three feet away?).
eddie
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Well, I guess it was -my- "senior moment" - ?
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tim,
and it was loverboy, who couldn't link to wikipedia fast enough! 
and it was loverboy, who couldn't link to wikipedia fast enough!
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Well Eddie, I'm not referring to "the best movie of all time" now, am I ...but the popularity of SW films in relation to your bringing up Kurosawa (read my post again). IMO, you would be in a very low minority of film fans, in your thinking that because Lucas 'borrowed' story plot elements from Kurosawa, that it then means his resulting films are 'lame' and 'trash'.
The sci-fi films that Lucas created owe their inspiration from Kurosawa, Kubrick (2001), and other previous earlier films. But what he gave the world in the STAR WARS films from -that- inspiration is some of the most enjoyable and fantastic scenes that moviegoers have ever seen (very memorable), and are part of home video collections the world over... Kurosawa, while a great director, well his films have NOT had the same worldwide popularity among filmgoers as that of Lucas, now have they? Among fellow directors/writers, yes - but what about those that matter more - the box office generating public.
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...but the popularity of SW films in relation to your bringing up Kurosawa (read my post again). IMO, you would be in a very low minority of film fans, in your thinking that because Lucas 'borrowed' story plot elements from Kurosawa, that it then means his resulting films are 'lame' and 'trash'.The sci-fi films that Lucas created owe their inspiration from Kurosawa, Kubrick (2001), and other previous earlier films. But what he gave the world in the STAR WARS films from -that- inspiration is some of the most enjoyable and fantastic scenes that moviegoers have ever seen (very memorable), and are part of home video collections the world over... Kurosawa, while a great director, well his films have NOT had the same worldwide popularity among filmgoers as that of Lucas, now have they? Among fellow directors/writers, yes - but what about those that matter more - the box office generating public.
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