Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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I still stand by what I said ed^^^^. Lucas just borrowed the things you and HE mentioned, and turned them into something different, which I consider to be pretty original. And so does ALOT of other people....OR is it MASS HYSTERIA?
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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it's mass stupidity.
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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LOL! 
"To each his own my friend"
"To each his own my friend"
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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Well, I certainly agree with bladerunner on this dispute. 
You know Eddie... the classic 'western' cowboy theme has been around in films for a long, LONG time, but nobody had ever made an 'original' form of the western genre that was similar to what Sam Peckinpah did with THE WILD BUNCH - w/extreme realistic violence, and lots of blood (+ sex). Likewise, monster movies have been around a long time too, but nobody ever made something as 'original' as ALIEN until Ridley Scott and his team gave us that classic. There are many examples of what I'm referring to here. Filmmakers work is often inspired by others, but what they create from that inspiration can be wholly original (especially in the area of SpFx), and a major improvement over what came before.
Just because Lucas borrowed or copied story lines from other filmmakers (Kurosawa for an example) and various sci-fi inspirations, nobody had done anything that resembled STAR WARS until George Lucas gave us that type of 'original' filmmaking, taking stop-motion photography to the next level (years before CGI). Oh, we had Ray Harryhausen, Stanley Kubrick (2001), and others, and classic adventures like Flash Gordon, etc, but the world was amazed and in a state of "eye shock" (hehe) when we first sat down in a theater and saw that incredible opening scene after those early words - "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away".
Think about what Lucas 'created' with the Star Wars films, and how his version of the good vs evil theme (set in a sci-fi "space" world) turned out to be more 'original' than many others that preceded his work - ironic, huh?
Yes, we've long seen comic book stories turned into TV shows and films going back many decades, but none of 'em ever were superior (or more popular) than the STAR WARS franchise, in my opinion. Superman is up there obviously (comic version, TV show, films), but the SW franchise is even more popular, I believe.
"The Force is strong with this one"... and definitely turned out to be strong in real life, with the huge $UCCESS that George Lucas has achieved and received with his SW saga.
~ rare photo of writer/director George Lucas with his close friend and mentor - director Francis Ford Coppola (The Godfather films, Apocalypse Now etc) on a Star Wars set...
~ funny 'spoof' film on Lucas (INFO)
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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)
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You know Eddie... the classic 'western' cowboy theme has been around in films for a long, LONG time, but nobody had ever made an 'original' form of the western genre that was similar to what Sam Peckinpah did with THE WILD BUNCH - w/extreme realistic violence, and lots of blood (+ sex). Likewise, monster movies have been around a long time too, but nobody ever made something as 'original' as ALIEN until Ridley Scott and his team gave us that classic. There are many examples of what I'm referring to here. Filmmakers work is often inspired by others, but what they create from that inspiration can be wholly original (especially in the area of SpFx), and a major improvement over what came before.
Just because Lucas borrowed or copied story lines from other filmmakers (Kurosawa for an example) and various sci-fi inspirations, nobody had done anything that resembled STAR WARS until George Lucas gave us that type of 'original' filmmaking, taking stop-motion photography to the next level (years before CGI). Oh, we had Ray Harryhausen, Stanley Kubrick (2001), and others, and classic adventures like Flash Gordon, etc, but the world was amazed and in a state of "eye shock" (hehe) when we first sat down in a theater and saw that incredible opening scene after those early words - "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away".
Think about what Lucas 'created' with the Star Wars films, and how his version of the good vs evil theme (set in a sci-fi "space" world) turned out to be more 'original' than many others that preceded his work - ironic, huh?
Yes, we've long seen comic book stories turned into TV shows and films going back many decades, but none of 'em ever were superior (or more popular) than the STAR WARS franchise, in my opinion. Superman is up there obviously (comic version, TV show, films), but the SW franchise is even more popular, I believe.
"The Force is strong with this one"... and definitely turned out to be strong in real life, with the huge $UCCESS that George Lucas has achieved and received with his SW saga.
~ rare photo of writer/director George Lucas with his close friend and mentor - director Francis Ford Coppola (The Godfather films, Apocalypse Now etc) on a Star Wars set...
~ funny 'spoof' film on Lucas (INFO)
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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)
[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on May 22, 2008]
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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And yes I know about how popular Gene Roddenberry's STAR TREK was, and is. It too is 'original', but doesn't take away the 'originality' that Lucas created with his STAR WARS works (from 1977 onward).
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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loverboy,
just because you're not familiar with film history doesn't mean that lucas invented space pirates.
eddie
just because you're not familiar with film history doesn't mean that lucas invented space pirates.
eddie
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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Eddie apparently you can't read all of a sudden and are now playing dumb, as I never said or implied that "Lucas invented space pirates" 
What he did invent, was an original style of the early stages of modern SpFx filmmaking, and also using the previously done stop-motion photography (as seen in classics like King Kong, and the Ray Harryhausen films for example). George Lucas took it to the next, more refined level - the true look of REALISM (since the others where nowhere near as smooth in their efforts).
Apparently your lack of respect for Lucas is related to being a loyal fan of Kurosawa's work, and you just can't accept that another filmmaker could receive inspiration from the great Japanese master, and then go on to create modern sci-fi masterpieces himself! (
) - disappointed in your opinion.
And incredible musical scores by John Williams were an element that Kurosawa probably wished he had the use of when making his Japanese filmworks. Too bad for him.
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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)
What he did invent, was an original style of the early stages of modern SpFx filmmaking, and also using the previously done stop-motion photography (as seen in classics like King Kong, and the Ray Harryhausen films for example). George Lucas took it to the next, more refined level - the true look of REALISM (since the others where nowhere near as smooth in their efforts).
Apparently your lack of respect for Lucas is related to being a loyal fan of Kurosawa's work, and you just can't accept that another filmmaker could receive inspiration from the great Japanese master, and then go on to create modern sci-fi masterpieces himself! (
) - disappointed in your opinion.And incredible musical scores by John Williams were an element that Kurosawa probably wished he had the use of when making his Japanese filmworks. Too bad for him.
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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)
Thursday, May 22, 2008
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Thursday, May 22, 2008
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Oh let's remember the sci-fi image that cjlong (Chris) created from Eddie's pic.... 
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