PS3 - Blu Ray playback seems grainy

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who_ate_the_cat

May 21, 2008 - CDT 2:09 PM

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HI Guys,

I just purchased a PS3, and have also bought several movies over the past couple of weeks. It seems like a lot of the movies are grainy, such as hellboy, spiderman 3, dan in real life. Golden Compass looked ok, but didnt really blow me away like i thought it might. Is it possible that they were just bad transfers?

I've never had any of these issues w/ my hd-dvd player. I'm not trying to start a debate or anything. I was just curious what others have found w/ their systems. I'm not sure if there are any settings i should be checking. Its set to full 1080p because my TV supports it, and i have a monster hdmi cable between the two.

Thanks for any help.

Flow

May 21, 2008 - CDT 2:25 PM

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I remember when I first got my PS3 and threw Hellboy in - I was like, this is worse than a standard DVD. Then I went into the display settings and had to click what my TV (projector actually) could handle. When I did the setup correctly, the picture was incredible so I would start there. The one thing I can say is my projector is NOT a 1080p projector but I selected it, which it set the picture to and it was so large I only saw about 1/4 of the actual picture. Getting that back to normal was a pain in the butt. Other than that, my PS3 is doing great for me (just as good as my HD DVD player in picture but not as good in the audio departement).

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Falcon01

May 21, 2008 - CDT 2:34 PM

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Also you may wanna update to the latest firmware. I think Flows suggestion will help but you already stated your TV can handle 1080P so I'm not sure.

Let us know if you get this resolved as I'm getting a PS3 sometime this week.

Also which PS3 console do you have? 40GB? 80GB? Do you have 24 fps forced? When did you get this unit?

[Post edited by Falcon01 on May 21, 2008 - CDT 3:17 PM]

kucoloco

May 21, 2008 - CDT 4:10 PM

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what type of tv you have?

overall bluray uses grain for deail, sometimes it backfires but normally only with older titles. spidey 3 shoudnt have much... i used to see it worst when i had the samsung tv no matter what settings, butsince i've had the aquos grain no more.

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May 21, 2008 - CDT 4:14 PM

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Hi all,
I posted a few weeks back about being disappointed in my Blu experience thus far with my PS# also. I have watched Curse of the Black Pearl, Predator, T1 and T2, and Black Rain on my PS3 and all looked grainy. My TV can handle 1080p, although it is not one of the ultra high end models, but I have not been able to clear the grain so far. My A30 has not had this problem. If anyone comes up with a definitive answer/solution, please let us know.
Oh, the audio from my PS3 is far better than my A30 however. Thumbs up to Blu and PS3 for that.

bladerunner1

May 21, 2008 - CDT 5:11 PM

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This was the very first topic I brought up when i came to dvdtown and just about got torn to shreds. On my setup, which also consists of a Samsung tele. the blu-ray playback coming out of the 60g ps3 comes nowhere close to what I get from my hd-a2. But like megatron says above^, the audio on the other hand IS better. I have no idea why this is, but grain is all over blu-ray titles on my setup also.

Oh. and the set is ISF calibrated...

[Post edited by bladerunner1 on May 21, 2008 - CDT 7:41 PM]

ReaggieP

May 21, 2008 - CDT 7:17 PM

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Your sharpness setting on your TV may be too high. Try turning that down first. 10 to 30% is a normal adjustment for most LCD tv's. That's why I still won't buy an LCD. Play around with your noise filters on the tv. settings may need adjustment too. Some HD sets are worse than others.

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May 21, 2008 - CDT 8:56 PM

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ReaggieP has a good point here. I prefer no sharpness processing, which unfortunately could be zero, or or above zero, or way below zero for your particular display. It's best to expore the more technical boards like AVSforum for your particular display for the setting, or experiment. Definitely, artificial sharpening will increase the appearence of grain or "edginess" in your picture.

Then again, some titles mentioned like Predator and Black Rain are known for having a lot of noise/grain. In which case it's probably not a medium or PS3 thing, but just a transfer thing. Try other movies - especially new ones rather than old releases.

Universal was quite known for applying a lot of DNR to movies in many of their HD DVD releases, and if you're used to this you may find many transfers from the Blu-ray exclusive studios higher in either digital noise or film grain.

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May 21, 2008 - CDT 11:10 PM

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It surprises me, now that we are in the HD realm (where the image is more NOTICEABLE than ever), that people continue to misunderstand the reality that is ORIGINAL FILM GRAIN (<educate yourself). It exists in photographic images (whether still pictures -or moving film frames).

It's not because of the PS3, or any other Blu-ray player, HD-DVD player, DVD player, LaserDisc player, VHS/Beta player... etc, rather the various levels and visuality of film grain is -intentional- from the program's director and/or director of photography.

Film is not supposed to look like 'video'. It has inherent grain, and the levels of grain are there primarily because of the way the film was shot or processed in the studio's lab. Rarely is it because the source copy was overly processed in the disc release.

There are gobs of movies that have higher -more deliberate- levels of grain, because the director WANTS it to look more 'grainy'. Look at the popular film 300 - its grainy no matter what format you view it in. Same with the music documentary U2-Rattle and Hum, or the film version of Miami Vice... etc, etc.

The other points (that Skyhawk etc) mentioned above relate to your home viewing settings on your TV, projector, disc player, and will perhaps augment the grain even more (make it look worse). But the original content can have a HIGHER LEVEL OF NATURAL FILM GRAIN regardless of your other viewing settings.

Get use to film 'grain', and enjoy the film!