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Re: PS3 - Blu Ray playback seems grainy


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Friday, May 23, 2008
Member since:
September 2007
i think lcd's look more grainy than plasma's, i had a 40 inch samsung and thought the pic was to grainy toke it back for a plasma and was blown away with the difference, and i didnt buy a top of the line plasma either, i got a 42 inch phillips plasma for 450 lol but it was normaly 1400. the ps3 setting are a little tricky at first, i had to adjust them at first to to get the right picture.
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
February 2008
Well, i've given up. I've tried tweaking settings on my tv, and tried different hd resolutions on the PS3, and Im still seeing a lot of grain. I guess, i will have to deal with it.

I know some of you have said that the grain is there for a reason, but of the 45 hd dvd movies i have, they seem to show much clearer. I'm not bashing blu ray, but perhaps, i will try to sell off the PS3, and grab a stand-alone, since i now have a little over a 12 movies on blu.

Thanks for all your help guys.
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
March 2008
It's not the ps3. It is the discs themselves....Buying a standalone won't help. And hogwash about the Sammy bashing. Hd/dvd titles look fantastic on mine. And so do some Blu-rays.
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
February 2008
what movies would any of you recommend to view on the PS3 to see if i can get a clearer picture. I just purchased underworld from amazon, so i should be in next week.

What movies seem to have the best picture on blu ray?
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
Some great looking Blu-ray titles...

(in alphabetical order)

2001: A Space Odyssey
Apocalypto
Alexander Revisted
Beowulf (UK import)
Black Snake Moan
Blade Runner
Cars
Casanova
Celine Dion: Live in Vegas
The Chronicles of Narnia: Lion, Witch...
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Con Air
The Condemned
Corpse Bride
Crank
Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds: Live at Radio City
Deja Vu
The Departed
The Descent
Destiny's Child: Live in Atlanta
Dreamgirls
Enemy of the State
Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer
The Fifth Element (remastered edition)
Flyboys
Galapagos
Good Night, and Good Luck
Hairspray
Happy Feet
Harry Potters movies
Hellboy
Hollow Man
I am Legend
I, Robot
Ice Age (both movies)
Kingdom of Heaven
The Last Samurai
Live Free or Die Hard
LOST: The Complete Third Season
Meet the Robinsons
Mission: Impossible 3
Pan's Labyrinth
Pirates/Carribbean series
Planet Earth
RV
Rambo (latest)
Ratatouille
Rush Hour 3
The Searchers
Shakira: Oral Fixation Tour
Shoot 'Em Up
The Simpsons Movie
Spider-Man Trilogy
Stealth
Sweeney Todd (UK import)
Tears of the Sun
Troy (Director's Cut)
Ultraviolet
The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep
Wild Hogs
World Trade Center


...and many others

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
who_ate_the_cat... you don't indicate -what- brand/size of HDTV is being viewed, and whether you have some of the set's artificial 'enhanced' picture setting modes engaged.

Turn OFF any special 'viewing' modes on your TV, such as...

Samsung - DNIe
Sony - DRC (Digital Reality Creation)
...etc

And make sure that if you have a "Film mode" (or similar) to turn it ON, so as to properly deinterlace 480i and 1080i film-based signals (from your discs). Progressive signals (480p, 720p, 1080p) are done by the player and your TV won't need the film mode set to "on" (and usually it prevents you from changing anyway, whenever progressive signals are received).

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
March 2008
That is quite a list you put together^^^^Hendrix! Btw...."Rambo"?...you gotta buddy or something??? I thought it came out THIS tuesday.??? And the Spiderman trilogy could be better. There is quite a bit of grain in 1...and 3 for that matter...."Underworld" has ALOT of grain too. (sorry bud)...if you already own the Standard Def. keep it and send the BR. back. It was an early release title, that somehow just doesnt work. Yes...I am saying the upconverted SD disc is better!!! O!

Underworld 2 looks pretty good on the other hand.....
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
June 2006
bladerunner.... I mentioned RAMBO, because of the quality of the trailers I've seen online, and would expect this latest version to be of great quality (don't have my copy yet).

And there you are again, a misunderstanding about FILM GRAIN. Many discs (of all types) have degrees of grain and STILL LOOK GREAT, such as the Spider-Man movies you mentioned. If -you- don't like the grain, then that's too bad, as the films were PHOTOGRAPHED that way, so there's nothing you can do about it.

Why not just learn to accept grain, and realize it's NATURAL, and doesn't detract from the quality of the presentation. I'm much more concerned when watching movies about the disc preserving the 'color accuracy' of the original content, as it's often not done correctly from release to release. DVDBEAVER.com has gobs of screen image captures between various disc editions, and you can easily see the differences between color accuracy... (has NOTHING to do with film grain, resolution, PS3, etc).

For example, Dean Cundey, the director of photography for John Carpenter's HALLOWEEN has stated that most releases of the film (except for the older Criterion LaserDisc, etc) have never presented it with the true color accuracy (from his approved settings), as noted on the internet, and the HighDefDigest review (<read the section under, Video: Sizing up the Picture).

EXCERPT - Unfortunately, that DiviMax version (2003 DVD) caused quite an uproar with fans when word quickly leaked out on the eve of its release that neither John Carpenter nor cinematographer Dean Cundey had approved the new master, and without their input, great liberties were taken with the film's color timing. Originally, to compensate for the film's low budget (and the fact that the movie was shot in the summer in California, not in Illinois in the fall), Cundey and Carpenter used filters and other tricks to create an appropriately spooky feel. Sadly, that's long gone on the DiviMax edition -- the deep midnight blues of the night scenes were turned star white, and the intentionally stylized orange cast of the daylight exteriors were "corrected" to blandness. Sure, image detail and clarity were improved, but it came at the expense of the mood originally intended by the filmmakers. Sadly, this 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 BD sports most of the same color timing problems as the DiviMax DVD edition (<read more about the transfer's color accuracy on above link).

Again, film grain is natural, is presented in various degrees (director's decision), and should be the least thing you worry about concerning whether to buy a disc... how about the extras, audio codecs, horrible over-use of 'edge enhancement', color accuracy, etc - ?

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

[Post edited by Love Hendrix! on May 25, 2008]
Sunday, May 25, 2008
Member since:
March 2002
Monday, May 26, 2008
Member since:
March 2008
Then please explain to me how a title like "I Know Who Killed" me can have excellent black levels, while a title that I own on dvd and br..."Underworld" has great blacks on the sd. but terrible grainy blue/blacks on the br? I think it is "mastering" Jimmy...kinda like the first version of "The Fith Element." the one that got killed for being crap....until they remastered it.

I speak what I see with my own eyes. And Underworld on br sucks. And "Spiderman" is not reference picture either...And "Close Encounters"??? Are you serious? Sure the movie looks the best it is going to look...but reference??? Nah, I don't think so.
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