Re: Walmart offers a Blu Ray player under $200

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What about your untruthful claims for SUC-processed SD-DVD? Where you claimed that DVDs thru SUC will output "native 960p HD" images - which is FALSE, since (1) the only "native" resolution with SD-DVD is 480i, and (2) 480i DVD super-upconverted to 960p is NOT "HD".

I am going to disprove your false claim now.


<Toshiba's Super Upconversion Demo>

Left side is SD source image, right side is super upconverted image.

Now do you see details on woman's cloth on right image that is not present in original source image? Do you get that extra detail by simple blow-up and interpolation? Absolutely not.

Output of Super Upconversion is 960p native, period. Now stop making false claims.

You know, I never can understand why you guys post side-by-side pictures? Haven't any of you heard of Photshop? Anybody with a good knowledge of graphics software can make just about any picture look better than its original. If you really want to see side-by-side, then go to your favorite electronics store, have the sales/tech rep set it up so you can compare! Make those pimple-poppers work for you money!

The player has to be released first Tim.

Wait a sec the PS3 has the same feature built on board. It's called Double Scale!

Let's Review...

........CAMP #1........
(HD) High Definition
"Native HD" disc content:
Blu-ray & HD-DVD

-and-

........CAMP #2........
(SD) Standard Definition
"Native SD" disc content:
DVD (w/any upconversion),
UMD (for PSP), LaserDisc

Toshiba's SUC tech is part of Camp #2 (SD), another form of Upconversion, and uses standard-definition DVDs, therefore is INCAPABLE of producing real and true hi-def image (although some, like Deadmeat, can fantasize and tell themselves otherwise). The SUC "960p" output is never HD at all, is not the native signal on the SD-DVD disc, and any new Toshiba player will only have a "DVD" logo on the player (no HD anything).

HD = Blu-ray, HD-DVD, Cable/Satellite, Apple TV etc

SD = DVD (w/SUC), Divx, LaserDisc, VHS,

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

Well Hendrix, I would definitely buy a Toshiba SUC if it is significantly better than my current options for upscaling my current DVD collection - since I don't watch DVDs much anymore and they do look pretty crappy at 130". I also own a LOT of DVDs... and I know you do too.

It's just that it would be dumb for me to actually pay money to buy a DVD. I'll rent one once in awhile for stuff not on Blu-ray in the foreseeable future (like more obscure stuff), but that's it.

Deadmeat did you own an HD-DVD player? Just answer that simple question.

If yes then you need to move on and accept that HD-DVD has lost.

I was a big HD-DVD fanatic, It truly was superior IMO. Price,reliability and best features. Java is truly craptastic compared to HDI.

But you know what I'm over it. Its time to buy BD if you want HD movies. Toshiba needs to quit this SUC nonsense.

Skyhawk said -

"Well Hendrix, I would definitely buy a Toshiba SUC if it is significantly better than my current options for upscaling my current DVD collection".

Well, I can understand that, and I would too acquire one. I mean why not buy a SUC model at a later date, if it will truly make SD-DVD look their best. However, this Deadmeat person is misleading everyone with claims of SUC's 960p being "HD" and a new "native" for the disc content. 960p cannot be native, since the DVD disc is always 480i, so yeah they've got their upconversion of better quality, but it's still STANDARD DEFINITION being upconverted. And the larger the screen, the more noticeable the difference seen in that SD image vs true HD of Blu-ray (or HD-DVD).

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-JIMI McLovin (the Voodoo Child)

Here's a FYI that I've known about for years. Believe it or not your DVD's will look better without the DRM on. Sounds weird but... The DVD player has to account for CC protection before and as it plays. If you play a disc that has no DRM, it plays with no delay and the Upconversion DVD player, or HD DVD player(or whatever machine you use) at least from my observation seems cleaner and clearer. I first notcied it with my Philips prog scan divx DVD player(DVP642). It used to be quite fuzzy with rental,a nd it drove me crazy. When I started ripping the movie, they got a lot cleaner. Once the CC was removed, it was like experiencing DVD all over agian. I never surmised the technical aspect of it, but it worked for me! I know it everything that you guys are against, but it works... Most movies you can tell right away, but some are so badly compressed to begin with, it doesn't really matter.

SLAVEMART IS THE KEY TO BRINGING BLU RAY TO THE MASSES. WITHOUT IT...IT'S DOOMED!


(god that was so easy)

ladies besides the magnabox being a decent player. 1.1 cheap and with 100$ gift card

so is samsung 1500, and the panny is in stock also... with 100 giftcard. im playing around with the sammy right now, if i dont like it, ill pick up the panny. so far so good though