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elterrible

Jun 18, 2008 - CDT 8:45 PM
elterrible
Member since:
January 2008
Some time ago I posted that I felt the Blu-Ray movies didn't look as good as the HD-DVD Movies on my 1080i TV...

Well, I was told that I was wrong and that my upconverted DVD's on the HD Player wouldn't look anywhere near as good as the PS3 Movies...

Well guess what, I figured out why this was happening... Basically, buying most Blu-Ray movies without owning a 1080P TV is a waste of money as they say flat out that the HD version is 1080P and the SD versions are 480i or 480P but you don't get 1080i or 720P as options on these discs...

So now I'm asking myself? Why is Blu-Ray superior if I have to change my perfectly good TV as well to make the movies look better than SD DVD's?

Bosshog7

Jun 18, 2008 - CDT 9:41 PM
Bosshog7
Member since:
November 2007
Quote:
So now I'm asking myself? Why is Blu-Ray superior if I have to change my perfectly good TV as well to make the movies look better than SD DVD's?


You don't have to change your TV...you just need to change the output of your Blu player to 1080i. I used to own a 1080i rear projection when I first bought the Toshiba A1...and the picture looked awesome, in most cases the whole 1080i vs 1080p thing was nothing but hype.

...And for the record your post seems rather anti Blu but HD DVD discs are ALSO 1080p....so I'm not sure what your point was....
[Post edited by Bosshog7 on Jun 18, 2008 - CDT 9:41 PM]

Love Hendrix!

Jun 18, 2008 - CDT 9:51 PM
says... Thanks for visiting DVDTOWN, and enjoy the news!
Love Hendrix!
Member since:
June 2006
elterrible said -

Quote:
"but you don't get 1080i or 720P as options on these discs... "


Sure you can - with the PLAYER SETTINGS.

You can choose to send the signal output to your TV in a number of ways... 1080p, 1080i, 720p, even downconverted 480p (obviously not hi-def, but would be compatible for viewing HD discs on an older non-HD television or monitor).

DVDTOWN editor John Puccio watches his HD DVD and Blu-ray discs with the 1080i output, on his nice Sony 34" hi-def Wega tube HDTV - the finest (and last) Sony hi-def tube TV... but since tube TVs are NOT progressive (interlaced only), to view hi-def images on them you have to use the 1080i output from your disc player or cable/satellite box.

1080p is the ultimate resolution/signal (at this time), but 1080i and 720p are ALSO true hi-def signals, and on hi-def discs easily look superior to standard definition DVD (480i), or even SD-DVD upconverted to 1080i/p (which is really 'quasi' 1080 resolution, and artificial, since the original signal on DVDs is 480i <max).

As we have said here repeatedly, the difference in the image quality on hi-def discs is NOT related to the format platform, but due to how the cinematographer filmed the scenes (grain levels, lighting, filters, etc), and also how the disc was mastered by the studio (sometimes added excessive edge enhancement, or too much DNR - digital noise reduction - and other mastering factors).

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ReaggieP

Jun 18, 2008 - CDT 10:11 PM
says... is thinking "Brick House"...
ReaggieP
Member since:
January 2008
I still watch my movies in 1080i as well, and I have a $3500 projector. I still find that the 1080i image looks more natural than the 1080p 60/24fps picture. It is all preference. Do not fool yourself into something you may not need. The debate has happened many times on this site about HD DVD VS Blu-Ray. I still find the HD DVD's nicer for the most part, and that is a matter of opinion.

John J. Puccio

Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 12:30 AM
says... "It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide." --A.E. Neuman
John J. Puccio
Member since:
March 2002
HD DVDs have better menus. My BD player loads faster. My HD DVD player upscales better. Otherwise, I see no differences in picture or sound, given an equal quality mastering and transfer.

John

bladerunner1

Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 1:38 AM
bladerunner1
Member since:
March 2008

[Post edited by bladerunner1 on Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 5:46 PM]

ITSTHROBBING

Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 4:52 AM
ITSTHROBBING
Member since:
June 2008
i have a 117 hd-dvds

and 43 blu-rays


but i dont brag about it

ITSTHROBBING

Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 4:58 AM
ITSTHROBBING
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June 2008
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elterrible

Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 5:33 AM
elterrible
Member since:
January 2008
I'm not so sure you guys are correct on this one... Seriously, some of the BD Movies state they support 1080i as a High Def Format but most don't.

Skyhawk

Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 6:21 AM
Skyhawk
Member since:
October 2007
Quote:
Seriously, some of the BD Movies state they support 1080i as a High Def Format but most don't.


I've never seen any "supporting" information on the back of a Blu-ray disk, but perhaps I haven't looked closely. It would be silly for them to say it supports 1080i in the first place, because it's irrelevant. By far, most Blu-rays (and HD DVDs) are encoded with 1080p video. Period.

It's either up to the player to automatically detect the display's resolution via the HDMI handshake and scale the picture to what it supports, or failing that it's the operator's responsibility to go into the video/display resolution settings of their player and set them accordingly. No offence, but sometimes RTFM does help in these situations.

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