Super UpConversion = lies!

Here's a post for you Deadmeat
I know the truth hurts!

Taken from DVD Review
http://www.dvdreview.com/coffee/pages/529.html

Toshiba's next attempt to foil Blu-Ray's success

Toshiba may have lost the format war but the company still doesn't' let up with the bullsh$t. Rumors have spawned indicating that Toshiba is working on a super-DVD player that will make DVDs look like Blu-Ray. How's that for a good morning joke?
Now, we all know by now that upconverted DVDs can look much better than played back through their standard definition output chain.Toshiba, in fact, was leading in the effort as the company's HD-DVD players did an amazing job upconverting DVDs to high definition.

However, let's not forget that upconversion is just that. Upconversion. There are inherent limitations in upconverting images and there are even more inherent limitation in upconverting video streams. Not even the best super-processor in the world can suddenly put image information that doesn't exist back into a picture. The source is limited to a poor 480p resolution and all it can do is make sure the scaled image looks as smooth as possible. By doing that it actually degrades the image even more because the resulting image has virtually nothing in common any more with the original frame. It has been entirely synthesized.
Claiming the resulting image rivals a Blu-Ray image is simply ludicrous. It's like saying Picasso's blue phase was so striking because of its diversity in color. It is hogwash and just another attempt by the sore loser of the format war to create insecurity in the market.

Fortunately we won't see the super-DVD player until the end of the year and hopefully by then people will have learned to appreciate a real high definition image over the poor imitator. Fake crab meat anyone?

oh crap...not another SUC thread

Whoever wrote that article doesn't even understand how super resolution works.

I already debunked the article at the source site.

Steveo you are missing the point. Dumb article by a dumb person. Don't be the dumb guy too.

ReaggieP, since you disagree with the author of the article, perhaps you're much smarter and can tell us how even the fastest computer on earth can take 9 frames (or 9 million) video frames that lack the resolution to show individual grains of sand on a beach, and magically analyse them to provide a single frame showing these individual grains of sand in HD glorious detail?

And perhaps you're smart enough to explain if this process works so well for video, why this process isn't used by rich studios to magically convert their SD content (like 28 days later, or the Taxi sitcom) into true HD that rivals Blu-ray? And they can do it even better of course, since the limitation of having to do this in real-time is removed.

Obviously, we have different definitions of what it is to be "smart".

Deadmeat , I read your 'rebuttal' on the site, it's weak and proves nothing.
Looks like you just copied and pasted some press release.

Anyways, you can wait for your magical 960p picture, in the mean time I will enjoy 1080p true hi def from my blu-ray player.

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why this process isn't used by rich studios to magically convert their SD content (like 28 days later, or the Taxi sitcom) into true HD that rivals Blu-ray?

They do this in Japan. A lot of Japanese Blu-Ray releases are SD materials upconverted to 1080p.

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A lot of Japanese Blu-Ray releases are SD materials upconverted to 1080p.

Yes, they've done it here too with "28 days later". However, you miss the point.

Skyhawk, you are missing the point. The technology will have other benefits outside of the standard dvd player. The technology will resolve some of the issues associated with reproduction of old film and videos. Current broadcast defintions will improve from this. 720p has always been frowned upon, and with 960p technology on the rise, look for 720p to fall by the wayside. It is a mere progression of the current stanadard. For those that chose BR at 1080p that's great, but there is piles of old footage and single layer DVD's that can benefit from this strategy. I see nothing wrong with it. There is over 60% of the population that will not buy a Blu-Ray player for at least 3 or 4 years from now, or clearly haven't even thought about HD. It is a smart business decision for those in HD and those that are not in HD. The article clearly indicates that know one has chosen to think past what we've been brainwashed by advertising and word of mouth. Simply to trash the technology before it hits mainstream in purely ignorant. That is the dumb, in the dumb I was refering too.

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[Post edited by ReaggieP on Jun 19, 2008 - CDT 1:01 PM]