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Deadmeat

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 8:24 AM
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http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/2073

Quote:We've just had one of the first working demos of Toshiba's new QuadCore laptop range, two of which feature 'Blu-ray rivalling' upscalers to deliver High-def pics without having to fork out for the compatible next-gen Blu-ray discs. And amongst howls of derision from certain rude, aged members of the UK press, the demonstrations looked pretty damn great in our expert opinion. And anything that's going to save us the ignominy of having to replace our entire DVD collection with Blu-ray has to be worth giving a go.

JJ79

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 8:30 AM
says... Also known as The Movie Rambler
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Thank god I know better than to take you seriously.

The last paragraph...

Quote:So they're as good as Blu-ray, will polish your existing DVDs to within an inch of their lives and offer access to Kaleidescape's extensive Movie Guide database - what's not to like? Erm, how about the respective $4,300 and $3,000 price tags, oh and the fact that to make them work you'll need to already have the $10,000 Kaleidescape System installed. Suddenly, Blu-ray doesn't look so pricey.

Defend away.

Jason, Hooked on Phonics worked for me!

Deadmeat

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 8:33 AM
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March 2008
Quote:Defend away.
You are confusing the Kaleidescape DVD player prices with Toshiba's Super Upconversion DVD player prices.

JJ79

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 8:38 AM
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Foot. Mouth.

My apologies. Carry on.

Jason, humble

ReaggieP

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 8:38 AM
says... Y2K issues with the PS3. Shocking...
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January 2008
Yes Jason it is a review on Kaleidescopes $4000 Super Upconversion DVD with Toshiba SUC chip! But, I think the question we have to ask is, How well will the Toshiba version at $200 sell! Using the same chip. This independent manufacture is trying to capture the High End market and make a few bucks before Toshiba pilots their product at $200.

Deadmeat

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 8:45 AM
Deadmeat
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March 2008
Quote:Yes Jason it is a review on Kaleidescopes $4000 Super Upconversion DVD with Toshiba SUC chip!
Actually Sigma Design's regular high-end upconversion chip. This is a Kaleidescape DVD player review, but the reviewer was mentioning the Toshiba Super Upconversion demo he saw a couple days ago.

Quote:But, I think the question we have to ask is, How well will the Toshiba version at $200 sell!
Build it for $130($70 over regular DVD players in terms of BOM), retail it for $200.

hoodaguy

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 9:59 AM
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I think it's still too little, too late. By the time these things hit the market, Blu-ray players will be $200 anyway. It's already slowly starting to happen where you can get a player for this price when you factor in the $100 giveaway gift card at some stores. Plus, Blu-ray movies might be expensive via retail, but online you can get them for a really good price if you shop around.

It might be good for people that already have extensive DVD collections, but then they will have Blu-ray players with built-in super-upconversion technology for standard DVDs, and a lot of people will have extensive Blu-ray disc collections.

Deadmeat

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 10:06 AM
Deadmeat
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Quote:I think it's still too little, too late. By the time these things hit the market, Blu-ray players will be $200 anyway.
Nope. Refer to my "The Impact of Blu-Ray's very high royalty on Blu-Ray drive's MSRP" thread.
Blu-Ray's very high royalty prevents any $200 Blu-Ray player from hitting the market. Because no matter how hard you cut cost, you still face high royalty cost.

Quote:It's already slowly starting to happen where you can get a player for this price when you factor in the $100 giveaway gift card at some stores. Plus, Blu-ray movies might be expensive via retail, but online you can get them for a really good price if you shop around.
You can do the same with DVD.

hoodaguy

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 10:21 AM
hoodaguy
Member since:
October 2007
You are wrong. Royalty doesn't mean squat. Eventually, there will be older models, and those models are normally sold at a lower price. This has been happening for ages, so I highly doubt it's going to come at a sudden halt with Blu-ray.

Plus, how do you know that these articles are indeed factual? Even though the format war is over, there are still people trying to put an end to Blu-ray.

Yes, you can find DVDs cheaper too. But I've looked, because I can play DVDs on my player, and I found that they aren't much cheaper than Blu-ray if you know where to look. Heck, I've even seen places where the DVDs were more expensive than BD.

hoodaguy

Jun 23, 2008 - CDT 10:31 AM
hoodaguy
Member since:
October 2007
Quote:Nope. Refer to my "The Impact of Blu-Ray's very high royalty on Blu-Ray drive's MSRP" thread.
Blu-Ray's very high royalty prevents any $200 Blu-Ray player from hitting the market. Because no matter how hard you cut cost, you still face high royalty cost.


I believe what's already happening over some article. You do realize that Wal-Mart has had $200 players already? Sure, it was $300 with a $100 gift card, but the gift card is practically like cash since you can buy anything at Wal-Mart.

Yeah, looks like royalties are really coming into play there.

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