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posters5

Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 1:52 AM

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well, as john and i noted in our reviews of "transformers" blu-ray, the new video encode doesn't really look a lot better than the hd-dvd encode. the audio is nearly identical, for that matter, even though it's lossless and not lossy.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 6:54 AM

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Yes, but still, the large capacity that these formats allow and the speeds that are being read allow disc authors to utilize higher bit rates. That's why i mentioned it, maybe it wasn't as clear, but i think the reader got the point with the technical explanation followed by that comment.

Thanks anyway Poster5, always helpful.

sbmess: For me "near HD" quality is not that much of a big deal, because a solution to actually get the real thing, HD, is becoming affordable and easy. Turn your cable or satellite tv and go through all your HD programming, some of them look worse than SD, and they're not "near HD", but HD. It's all depending on numbers and bitrate.
Like i said on another post, up conversion is nothing new. Faroudja developed chips that were found on high-end players of the past with outstanding results.
People talk as if TOSHIBA re-invented Up-scaling, they didn't.

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ReaggieP

Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 8:08 AM

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Quote:People talk as if TOSHIBA re-invented Up-scaling, they didn't.

No they didn't. But they may have improved current techniques that currently exist in up-scaling.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 8:08 AM

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BTW, Most service providers are were scaling a lot of content from SD to near HD. Most TV shows that you watch most CSI's, Lost, and others were only shot in HD. Unless the feed said now available in HD, that they were actually displayed and developed in HD. CSI and Lost are examples of shows that are only available in HD. I think I said that right... It's early. Anywho a fair amount of replay shows are upconverted SD material, but it more common that HD is readily available.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 9:59 AM

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Hey TACO, I have been posting on this site since October 2007, and I do not own a Blu Ray player. Like I said I own a Toshiba A2. It is my opinion that Toshiba takes a GIANT step backwards with this new SUPER UPCONVERT.

If they would have put the effort into HD DVD, then maybe we would still being seeing red, but thats just my opinion.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 10:27 AM

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I don't think this is so much a step back as an attempt to keep people watching dvd not bluray until suc comes out. I think it is safe to say that with Toshiba not making Bluray players they are hoping to keep DVD the dominate format. I think they may have a small chance depending on how well this SUC works. But bluray does look very nice, wawawewa. I think maybe they should put out a BluRay player. I think people would buy it more than they would some called SUC

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 10:36 AM

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Quote:"Most TV shows that you watch most CSI's, Lost, and others were only shot in SD."

Perhaps most (I have no idea), but certainly not these two.

CSI is shot using 3-perf Panavision film (Super 35), with some special effects done using the Iconix HD-RH1 high definition video camera. It's "printed format" is HDTV video 1080p/24.

Lost is filmed with Panavision Gold II on 35mm, with the Arri 35-3 used in some effects shots. It's "printed format" is HDTV video 1080p/24.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 11:23 AM

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Quote:BTW, Most service providers are were scaling a lot of content from SD to near HD. Most TV shows that you watch most CSI's, Lost, and others were only shot in SD. Unless the feed said now available in HD, that they were actually displayed and developed in HD. CSI and Lost are examples of shows that are now available in HD, but when originally launched they were SD.
Agreed with Skyhawk. There are lots of programs that are on HD channels that aren't HD programming (CSI and Lost not being in that group), but as you note there is usually an "HD" tag in the description for shows that are actually HD as opposed to SD content just being broadcast on the HD channel. The quality range of what is "HD", though, is of course pretty wide, so point taken. Some will argue that anything that is output at 1080i/720p is HD, but it goes back to the original source.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 11:23 AM

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i agree with skyhawk.

Infact mose of mainstream shows, specially the ones with serious budgets shoot strictly on film, or directly on HD at worse. Nobody shoots mainstream series on Beta anymore.

If CSI and LOST were televised originally on SD that doesn't mean that the only copies of the series exist only in SD. In fact, most of the tv shows and movies are being scanned to HD from the DI (Digital intermediate) that the lab has and prints after all the work is done on film.

If you do an optical process (consisting of chemical color correction, not actually color timing on a Color correction suite) resolution is as pure as the in-camera stock.

If you go digital there's either 2k (mostly used throughout the industry today) and 4k, after you finish with your color timing and effects you take that high resolution DI and print back to film. "Katyn", polish director Andrzej Wajda's new film, was screened at the berlin film festival which i attended this year, and it was the first film to be printed from a 4k intermediate in europe. The image was simply breathtaking.

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Aug 21, 2008 - CDT 11:58 AM

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I've watched 1080i content on HD cable that looked so compressed that the grain was killing me. Some cable and satellite companies compress channels more than others also.

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