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Tim Raynor

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 12:20 PM
says... It puts the lotion in the basket . . .
Tim Raynor
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I never had a problem with X-3. X-1 & 2 were cornball enough on their own that #3 didn't seem all that much different.

JJ79

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 12:25 PM
says... Also known as The Movie Rambler
JJ79
Member since:
January 2006
Tim, I am taking away your credentials. Hand over the card.

You don't see a marked difference between the Singer films and the garbage Ratner threw out?

Jason, disbelieving

wolvinator

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 12:28 PM
wolvinator
Member since:
January 2008
While X-MEN 1 and 2 were better than 3 I didn't get a hard-on for Singer like you did Jason

JJ79

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 12:31 PM
says... Also known as The Movie Rambler
JJ79
Member since:
January 2006
Quote:While X-MEN 1 and 2 were better than 3 I didn't get a hard-on for Singer like you did Jason

Not a hard on (though I freely admit to thinking the man is attractive). An appreciation for the elements he brought to the forefront of the two films which define the X-Men universe. Themes of being an outsider, being discriminated against, a small group protecting a larger one who doesn't want them, an acceptance of all people.

All of which was thrown out the window by X3 in favor of kewl computer effects and the assassination of every single character, from a cameo by James Marsden all the way to Magneto and Professor X. All Ratner and Fox cared about was Wolverine, who just happens to be the most bland character in the trilogy.

Jason, there, I said it

wolvinator

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 1:05 PM
wolvinator
Member since:
January 2008
You need to watch part 3 again then. When you really think about it, only a couple characters might be gone permanently. Xavier put his mind in someone who is braindead and we find out that all the characters that received the drug may get their powers back anyway because of the scene toward the end with Magneto. Most of the "shocking" damage done to the characters is only temporary. I was pissed until I saw the end.

Falcon01

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 1:08 PM
Falcon01
Member since:
July 2006
I see Tims point about musical instruments but I think this whole Guitar Hero thing has actually got more kids interested in music and instruments whereas some of these same kids may not have even entertained the thought of playing music had the GH games not come out.

Now, a GH movie...not interested.

JJ79

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 1:43 PM
says... Also known as The Movie Rambler
JJ79
Member since:
January 2006
Quote:You need to watch part 3 again then. When you really think about it, only a couple characters might be gone permanently. Xavier put his mind in someone who is braindead and we find out that all the characters that received the drug may get their powers back anyway because of the scene toward the end with Magneto. Most of the "shocking" damage done to the characters is only temporary. I was pissed until I saw the end.

I have it on BD and might get to it at some point.

Cyclops is dead, Jean/Phoenix is dead, Prof. X (in the guide of Patrick Stewart) is probably dead.

Then there's the character assassination. Rogue went from a mutant in training to a petulant school child pining over Iceman. Bobby (Iceman) showed none of the potential for growth coming from X2. Juggernaut wasn't a character he was a device to create a catch phrase. Angel we had glimpses of turning into a compelling character, but he was left in the cold at the end. Beast was thoroughly boring. Storm turned into a wimp. It became the Wolverine show.

I despise Wolverine. Always have and always will.

Jason, I'm the Juggernaut bitch!

rangoonth

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 2:14 PM
rangoonth
Member since:
February 2008
I found both of the 3's to suck. Rush Hour 3 and Xmen 3 were pure suck.

Tim Raynor

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 2:28 PM
says... It puts the lotion in the basket . . .
Tim Raynor
Member since:
March 2002
Quote:Tim, I am taking away your credentials. Hand over the card.

You don't see a marked difference between the Singer films and the garbage Ratner threw out?


Not really. While I think the X-Men movies are fun, mindless entertainment, I'm not really in love with any of them. They all rate around 6/10 in my book and certainly work well for TBS and TNT to wear out for the next 10-years. For me I don't see a huge difference from #3 compared to the others. It was the third installment and it was obvious it would be a film to bring closure, and also a subtle hint to rekindle any future movies.

I can understand that if you're a follower of the whole X-Men genre, and have been a fan of the comics, that X-3 just didn't cut it. IMO, all I have to go on are the movies, and from what I've seen, they are all silly, cornball entertaining films. I really don't think one film is any better than the next. Each one of them has had their fun and fall-flat moments. As I said, not in love with them but much more fun than some of the crappy standby on cable.

Tim - Not an X-Men fan, but have no problem with those that are.

JJ79

Aug 29, 2008 - CDT 2:31 PM
says... Also known as The Movie Rambler
JJ79
Member since:
January 2006
Tim,

The only X-Men comics I've EVER read were the first one (packed with the CE of X3) and the Star Trek crossovers. So it's not a case of me being a fanboy.

Jason, Trek fanboy...yes

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