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Falcon01

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 1:39 PM
Falcon01
Member since:
July 2006
The scene at the beginning where the camera pans over the Brazilian housing complex and stops at the top of the hill/mountain to show Bruce Banner drinking tea or something...did this scene look really blurry for any of you? It's as if the camera is panning too fast but I think it's my setup that is just having trouble processing this scene. There is no way it should intentionally be that difficult view it.

As the camera is panning over the stretch of housing my TV (Pioneer 5080HD plasma) just couldn't seem to process it fast enough. It really started getting progressively more blurry as it went up the hill.

I checked my PS3 and I still have my resolution set to 1080P and I have the 24P set to on. I checked the settings on my TV and it is on Movie mode with the Advanced movie mode on. I also changed the resolution on my PS3 to 720P mode (also tried 1080i) but no change at all, it is still very hard to look at. I switched the movie mode from Advanced to Smooth which handled this scene much better but now the screen almost looked like it was melting at times, it's hard to describe but yes the Smooth setting was much better in this instance.

I know we all have different setups at home so I'm curious to know how your systems handled this particular scene.
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Nov 30, 2008 - CST 1:46 PM]

spoonard

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 2:06 PM
spoonard
Member since:
February 2008
There is ALOT of blurry scenes in The Hulk I noticed. I wonder... was The Hulk filmed digitally or did it actually use film? It could be in certain scenes where they should have used a higher speed of film they didn't. Anyway, play with that pause button during the scene where Blonsky is fighting with the Hulk right before he gets kicked into the tree. That whole scene is super blurry when paused.

Tim Raynor

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 3:28 PM
says... It looks fake . . . very fake!
Tim Raynor
Member since:
March 2002
I’ve seen this issue on other Hi-defs other than “Hulk”. While Broo-ray may look ultimately better, it does, however, present enough detail to bring out flaws. If the effects were bad in the first place, then they’ll look even worse on BR.

I notice out-of-focus or blur much more during still shots, such as a characters face or close up during your basic monolog. I expect a certain degree of it in moments of action -- therefore the flaw is not as distracting to me. It is, however, very annoying when the moments are more still and calmed down and then they are far more noticeable. A lot of it that I see is just common camera focus and is far more noticeable in hi-def rather than SD. Who are these non-focus people!?
Again, I’ve seen this issue in many other Broo-rays other than “Hulk”. So, if this is a thread to rip on the Hulk movie then count me out. I thought it was a decent, entertaining film and I probably had more fun with it than TDK.

You’ll pretty much see blur when you pause any action sequence. It’s always fun to pause and see how truly fake it is. This is even apparent on SD and I have done it many times just to look at the fine, cheap details we really get with CGI. “Armageddon” is a blast to slow down frame-by-frame – many of the effects look like cheesy, blurry, blobs of color with very little detail, but when in motion they look effective.

hoodaguy

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 3:30 PM
hoodaguy
Member since:
October 2007
That's odd. I didn't have any blurry issues.

Falcon01

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 3:47 PM
Falcon01
Member since:
July 2006
Quote:
if this is a thread to rip on the Hulk movie then count me out.


Tim, I'm not ripping on this movie at all, I liked this movie (much more than Hulk 2003) which is why I purchased it.

My reason for asking is to see if other people here had the same issue with that scene so I know if it's an issue with my system or it's configuration. I think it's such a beautiful shot that I wanted to see more detail and be able to look at the housing complex and all it's intricancies but instead it just seems to blur and I can't enjoy it.

Love Hendrix and I have pretty much the same setup so I'm curious to see how he sees it.
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Nov 30, 2008 - CST 5:11 PM]

Tim Raynor

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 4:35 PM
says... It looks fake . . . very fake!
Tim Raynor
Member since:
March 2002
Quote:
Love Hendrix and I have pretty much the same setup so I'm curious to see how he sees it.


You mean a 50"1080p Panasonic Plasma, like I have?

Love Hendrix!

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 4:43 PM
says... Thanks for visiting DVDTOWN, and enjoy the news!
Love Hendrix!
Member since:
June 2006
Hey Falcon... I can't comment as I haven't rented the BD yet (some relatives are visiting in a few weeks, and I plan to watch it then, along with a few other titles I've been holding back on).

I do know that sometimes visible blur is due to the cinematographer's choice of lenses, and then the depth of field of the shot [focusing], especially when bright lights are shown (such as in the background). If you remember Apocalypse Now, when the boat first arrives at that supply depot (about 45 minutes into the film, right before and also during the Playmate bunnies dancing for the troops), you see a blur of lights that they used to light up the nighttime scene around the area of the stage. Everything else in the frame is clear, except those lights which look like are "shaking" downward - I've seen the film on LaserDisc, and the different DVDs and the anomaly is always there, and appears because of the photographer's choice of lenses and lack of deep focus at night (all the way to the rear area of where the lights appear in the shot).

You might want to check with other online forums (AVS, etc) and see if there is a thread where this is being discussed (Incredible Hulk). But as Tim said, the BD will bring about any pros and cons of the original source's quality (not overlooking a bad transfer, botch print, or something technical that was not a part of the original print).

-JOE- (Love Hendrix!)

Falcon01

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 5:15 PM
Falcon01
Member since:
July 2006
Tim, Hendrix and I both use PS3's for bluray playback and have them hooked up to the same model of Pioneer plasmas.

Hendrix let me know what you think of it when you see it. It's at the very beginning right after all the credits roll.

BTW, Incredible Hulk is one of the best Hi-Def movies to look at as far as picture quality.

Tim Raynor

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 5:25 PM
says... It looks fake . . . very fake!
Tim Raynor
Member since:
March 2002
Ok Falcon, I just watched it (twice). I sit about 6 to 7 feet from my set. Aside from the movie having dark contrast, making for really good black levels and most likely presented that way for artistic value, I thought the opening scene looked near perfect. There was a very small amount blur due to the camera being in motion for the fly-over, but only in the outside edges of the picture where a wideangle camera would most likely go out of focus when moving. Nevertheless, it looked pretty clear to me. I could easiley make out fine details like bricks and morter and roof tiles, which all looked pretty sharp.

S_Coaster

Nov 30, 2008 - CST 5:37 PM
S_Coaster
Member since:
May 2004
I've seen this film recently on DVD but i didn't pay a lot of attention to the blurry stuff since every time there was CGI in there they cranked up the "motion blur" effect to hide their pathetic looking CGI and action.

There's nothing wrong with your TV set.
It's the movie
[Post edited by S_Coaster on Nov 30, 2008 - CST 5:38 PM]

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