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fobsta4ya

Dec 2, 2008 - CST 11:26 PM
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February 2008
Interesting Article on an Australian site - http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Content_And_Downloads/Industry/W2S6P4X2?page=2

Sony To Move To Internet Content For Competitive Edge
By David Richards | Wednesday | 03/12/2008
At a press briefing in New York last month, Sony executives admitted that Blu-ray sales have lagged behind their own projections, but said they expected significant growth for the format during the holiday sales period despite economic downturn concerns.

They have also said that a new generation of DVD up-scalar's that up-convert standard-def DVD to Full HD are starting to eat into Blu ray sales with consumers choosing devices similar to the new Toshiba up-scalar over Blu ray because of price.
"If it was about formats last year, this year it's about up scaling DVD vs. Blu-ray," says Sony Consumer Sales President Jay Vandenbree, referring to the up converting standard-def DVD players that Toshiba recently launched after losing the HD DVD Vs Blu ray war earlier this year.

Sony have also admitted that Blu-ray is also getting fresh competition from file-based Internet movie services like Apple iTunes, which have figured out how to facilitate on-demand viewing of movies and TV shows on the living room TV without the clunky workarounds that have historically been required to connect a computer to a TV in order to view Web video.
This in part is due to the fact that many vendors including Apple and Sony are integrating DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) standards into their products that allow devices to seamlessly talk to each other.

Such services deliver high-definition movies through the Internet to big-screen sets using dedicated set-top boxes, TiVo digital video recorders or high-end game consoles like Microsoft's Xbox. It is also tipped that Foxtel will launch an Internet based capability in 2009 that will allow consumers to access web based services via their Foxtel box.
Not to be outdone by the likes of Apple Sony in the USA has responded to the demand for Internet movie on-demand services by starting its own movie download service for its popular PlayStation 3 console, which already had the ability to play back Blu-ray discs.


As much I would like to start purchasing Blu-ray, just can't afford it just yet - Is it really THAT GOOD. Or just be happy with upscaler for the next couple of years until we have a ultimate next-gen of DVD?

Love Hendrix!

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 12:13 AM
says... Thanks for visiting DVDTOWN, and enjoy the news!
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"As much I would like to start purchasing Blu-ray, just can't afford it just yet - Is it really THAT GOOD."


Hmmm... you ask "is it really THAT GOOD", and then also exclaim "as much as I would like to start purchasing Blu-ray"....

? Why would you question how "good" it is if you already know enough (and perhaps have seen a demo, etc), so as to say you would like to start purchasing Blu-ray very "much" - ?

Of course it's of great quality... price-wise is another story (in comparison to DVD), and is obviously holding some people back (higher-priced discs usually in comparison to DVD).

1080p Blu-ray High-def is currently the best image you can view on a home-based theater system. It's here to enjoy now, either by buying or renting the discs. You can save much by purchasing thru DVDTOWN links to Amazon.com, and other sites such as half.ebay.com, deepdiscount.com, jr.com, etc.

-JOE- (Love Hendrix!)

John J. Puccio

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 12:23 AM
says... "It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide." --A.E. Neuman
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Member since:
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"By David Richards | Wednesday | 03/12/2008"

Am I missing something here? The article is from last March, nine months ago. I think we've moved past this "crisis."

John

Scotsman

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 3:26 AM
Scotsman
Member since:
January 2008
Quote:
"By David Richards | Wednesday | 03/12/2008"

Am I missing something here? The article is from last March, nine months ago. I think we've moved past this "crisis."

John


I'm afraid you are missing something. The Australian date format is the same as the British format.

DD/MM/YYYY. That article is Wednesday 3rd Dec 2008.

posters5

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 3:40 AM
posters5
Member since:
March 2002
i'd have to go with joe on this one. the funai clones are regularly sold for the same price as good dvd upscalers, which means that you can get real 1080p for a decent price. the funais are also great upscalers. therefore, you might as well move into blu-ray.

Scotsman

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 4:50 AM
Scotsman
Member since:
January 2008
Quote:
the funai clones are regularly sold for the same price as good dvd upscalers, which means that you can get real 1080p for a decent price.


The top 3 sellers for Upscalers on amazon are priced at $45, $84 and the XD-E500 in third at $79.

That is the price people are paying for their upscallers.

In the UK the Toshiba XD-E500 which has received good reviews for its upscaling is being offered with a free 12 month subscription to 'Lovefilm' (Uk's equivalent to Netflix) valued at £100. This puts the players price into the 'no name' dvd player price point.

hoodaguy

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 9:45 AM
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Yeah, but those upscalers still don't come close to the picture quality of Blu-ray, and a big one for me is that they don't have HD sound.

posters5

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 1:22 PM
posters5
Member since:
March 2002
scotsman,

notice that i wrote "good upscalers", not "upscalers". many dvd players are now capable of upscaling, but a lot of the crap out there upconverts so poorly that the difference is negligible.

Scotsman

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 1:38 PM
Scotsman
Member since:
January 2008
Quote:
scotsman,

notice that i wrote "good upscalers", not "upscalers". many dvd players are now capable of upscaling, but a lot of the crap out there upconverts so poorly that the difference is negligible.


So you did.

But Sony have said upscaler dvd is putting pressure on Blu-ray. I would have thought they meant players that people are buying which by assumption would be the top three on Amazon.

Sure if people are going to spend the cost of a BD player they may as well buy a BD player - this ones for you posters5



But as Amazon shows - they are not spending that amount.
[Post edited by Scotsman on Dec 3, 2008 - CST 1:39 PM]

posters5

Dec 3, 2008 - CST 1:44 PM
posters5
Member since:
March 2002
a lot of garbage is spewed and should be discounted. remember when sony ceo howard stringer said that blu-ray should be considered a niche market and that winning the tussle against hd dvd was more a matter of pride/"saving face" rather than an actual business need? well, things have changed, huh?

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