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chemteam

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 9:09 AM
chemteam
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May 2007
I disagree with one comment in this article. The author commented that the ps3 trojan horse strategy was a bust. I think it accomplished its true purpose. The ps3 was primarily meant to get as many blu-ray players into the home as possible in order to convince movie studios to drop hddvd support. In that sense the trojan horse plan worked. Hoping for the ps3 to win the gaming console war was clearly an afterthought and an added bonus to Sony at the time.

StevePro

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 9:30 AM
StevePro
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June 2006
I think the Trojan Horse Strategy and BDs advertising blitz gave the impression of working, which was really all they needed. What really killed HD DVD was its lackluster advertising (which I still don't understand to this day) and the amount of BAILOUT $$$$ Sony and others threw around.

But that was then, and this is now:

"If Blu-ray is going to succeed, it needs to succeed on its own, as a single-purpose, playback-only home movie format."

It has to become a "dvd on steroids." Just what they were accusing HD DVD of being a little more then a year ago. All the extra crap, BD Live, Digital Copy, etc., is superfluous. The public does not want it.
[Post edited by StevePro on Dec 31, 2008 - CST 10:06 AM]

chemteam

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 10:41 AM
chemteam
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May 2007
I agree with you on the lack of advertising by toshiba. They never really were aggressive enough until it was too late. And I also agree that blu-ray needs to change their marketing strategy. Instead of trying to replace dvd they should focus on coexistence. If the new blu/dvd hybrid disc technology will expand to other regions besides japan that would help.

Falcon01

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 11:14 AM
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July 2006
That article is bang on. Especially when speaking of differences in VHS-to-DVD and DVD-to-Bluray.

Personally there are a lot of HDTV's in homes now and people want to see high definition content on them. If the bluray players go for less than $200 consistantly that will be a big plus. The MSRP on bluray movies needs to drop also unfortunately.

I really hope bluray succeeds in 2009. It would be a shame if went under because of downloads or anything else.

StevePro

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 11:49 AM
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June 2006
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The MSRP on bluray movies needs to drop also unfortunately.


And how! I just bought "Hancock" and "Eagle Eye" at FYE (convenient-close to home) for big $$$ because it is snowing here too hard to schlep down to BB (who isn't much cheaper anyway). We will definitely be in tonight watching these, probably with some of the neighbors.

Happy New Year to all! Steve

spoonard

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 12:21 PM
spoonard
Member since:
February 2008
The cliffnotes are:

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Whatever else you can say about PS3, it isn't driving Blu-ray hardware penetration and whatever it is contributing on that score is not driving sales of Blu-ray software.


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If Blu-ray is going to succeed, it needs to succeed on its own, as a single-purpose, playback-only home movie format.


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From the point of view of the consumer, Blu-ray offers incremental improvement over standard DVD, in the same form-factor but no compelling new functionality. Nor does it deliver the sort of game-changing new consumer proposition that DVD delivered by establishing a purchased-based home video economy to replace the largely rental-based VHS economy.


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The studios' biggest challenge right now is that consumer spending on physical media is falling faster than spending on new digital delivery formats is growing.


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The end of 2008 is not like the end of 1998. Blu-ray is launching into a world of far greater consumer choice than was the case for DVD.


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Purists may scoff at the notion that high-def streaming over consumer broadband connections could be an adequate substitute for the quality of Blu-ray, and they would be right. But they would also be missing the point.

The quality of MP3 files doesn't match the quality of CDs, let alone DVD-Audio or SACD. But it has become the dominant music format because it met other consumer needs more effectively than the optical disc alternatives.


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The strategic goal with Blu-ray should be to maintain (and hopefully expand) consumer spending on optical media until new delivery channels can achieve scale, not to milk the format for margin.

That means pricing Blu-ray discs such that consumers aren't left fearing that an initial investment in the format will mean ongoing higher costs for using it.

[Post edited by spoonard on Dec 31, 2008 - CST 12:21 PM]

Tim Raynor

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 1:14 PM
says... It looks fake . . . very fake!
Tim Raynor
Member since:
March 2002

ReaggieP

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 1:26 PM
says... is thinking "Brick House"...
ReaggieP
Member since:
January 2008
Tim, I soo heard that shatter!!! That was awesome!!!

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I really hope bluray succeeds in 2009. It would be a shame if went under because of downloads or anything else.


No, AnyDvdHD and 1Tb HDD's for $59 will kill it! Oh Sorry, rental stores with lots of stock too!

posters5

Dec 31, 2008 - CST 1:52 PM
posters5
Member since:
March 2002
the article gets everything right, but tim is also right. people have discussed this ad nauseum and need to let things run their course without spewing the same tripe over and over and over again.

bgraham24

Jan 1, 2009 - CST 12:44 PM
bgraham24
Member since:
January 2009
Blu-Ray is not succeeding as well as it should because the AVERAGE consumer is unwilling to pay $15 more for a Blu-Ray disc (than DVD) and $225 or more on an entry-level Blu-Ray player. To me, Blu-Ray's unsuccessful attempt at tapping into the AVERAGE consumer market is a complete cost issue. The writer of this article has it right in the sense that the higher ups within Sony need to start projecting costs that the AVERAGE consumer will pay for the upgrade in picture, audio and extras (that Blu-Ray can offer) and not what they should pay.
I keep saying AVERAGE consumer because it seems as though Sony is basing its costs on the home theater enthusiast market, which is a really small percentage of people.

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