Matrix Revolutions, The (DVD)

Cover art looks horrible

I guess it befits the movie ;)

hahahahaha.

Yes, this movie was beyond terrible. Burn your copy of Reloaded and don't ever buy this one.

Worst sequel of all time. Very good review by John .. Reloaded and Revolutions could have been only one movie. Instead with get a movie extended and contrived action sequences.

So I'm guessing by what you guys are saying I should snap this one up fast? ;)



Never did see it. Might rent it, dunno. Is it worth the rental even?



Sean (seeking the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind for my memories of Reloaded)

Great review, John. I should have read your review of Reloaded again before reading this one, but I rectified that just now, and found that I agreed with you (I think). Reloaded was completely acceptable, if only Revolutions delivered. But it didn't, so it turns out that the sequels were a bad idea after all.



One thing I didn't see in the review and wanted to hear your thoughts on was the dialogue. I thought it was about ten pegs lower in this film than the others. I mean, Morpheus, with deep sincerity, turns to Niobe and says, "You're one hell of a pilot." That's a terrible line. Not to be out done, Smith boldly declares that "It's not fair!" as so many bad guys have done before him when they get their just desserts. There are other examples, such as the pseudo-philosophic mumbling it seems that everyone indulged themselves in for about half of the movie.

I welcomed the trite monosyllabic utterances after listening to all the fortune-cookie ramblings. And, yes, I think it’s worth a rental. Some of the battles are still fun to watch at least once.



John

"Fortune-cookie ramblings," that's too funny! Thanks, John. Now everytime I eat a fortune-cookie I'll end up thinking of this disappointing film. However, I can always get around that problem by adding the words "In Bed" to the end of every fortune I read.

I guess I like this movie more than most. I would have rated the Matrix series as follows, according to film value:

THe Matrix: 9

The Matrix Reloaded: 8

The Matrix Revolutions: 7.5 or an 8

YCH:



These are my ratings:



"The Matrix"--6

"The Matrix Reloaded"--4

"The Matrix Revolutions"--didn't care to see it.



Eddie



P.S.

While I was a smidge dissapointed by the ending, I still enjoyed the final installment of this trilogy for what it was, and upon repeat viewings, enjoy the second part more and more. But, like John says, where it fails is in the great subplots that are left hanging, like the Merovingian. I'll certainly be picking this one up on release day and have a matrix party (by myself, I'm such a loser) that weekend. Maybe whiskey will make it better!

i agree this movie was horrible and i suggest that no one waste their money on this junk.

I think the reason that everyone hated this movie is that their expectations were impossibly high. "The Matrix" was a breakthrough in sci-fi, and "Reloaded" had some of the best action scenes and visual flair of any movie. The build-up of "Revolutions" was so high that unless it was the greatest movie of all time, everyone would be disappointed. Most complaints are about the dialogue, unexplained plot threads, and the ending. Now some of the dialogue and acting is bad, but how many great action movies have moments of bad acting? Even the best, like T2 or even Star Wars. Unexplained plot threads? There were a few, like the Merovingian or the Trainman. The little girl and her family in the train station I think I understand. The little girl was supposed to be the next Oracle for if the machines take over again, and her family was trying to get her out of the Matrix so she's not discovered. My main complaint of this movie was that nothing ever came of Persephone and Neo's kiss in "Reloaded". They could have done something real neat with that, but didn't. The Merovingian is not fully explained either, so the complaints about forgoteen plot tangents are valid. And the ending? Yes, it was left open-ended but I still HIGHLY doubt they will make another film or TV series. Also, I couldn't think of how else it could end. If the machines or the humans had simply won the war, people would have still complained that it was too simple. If they would have thrown something weird at you, like Neo wasn't The One the whole time, then people would have correctly claimed that it was bullsh*t. So what else could have been done? I actually thought thge ending was very good, with Neo and Smith being opposite remainders of the same equation, it made sense. The ultimate irony was that if Neo let Smith "absorb" him in the park in "Reloaded" then the whole war would have been avoided. The biggest unanswered question to me was, who was the Architect? Was he another program or was he a human webmaster controlling the whole Matrix system from the outside? If the Architect and the Oracle were programs, than why did they appear in the end of the film as humans, looking the exact same? I can't wait for Revolutions to come out on DVD though I'll probably wait for the box set with more special features found on the regular DVD's (The Matrix DVD's are poor in the bonus material department). The ratings I posted before still stand. While "Revolutions" is probably the worst of the trilogy, it is still very good and worth the purchase. It's just as good if not better than "Reloaded" but not as good as the original.

My main problem with these movies is their "philosophy". You have characters saying that no one has to believe or think anything because it's all be foreseen, but then once a character starts believing or thinking, then everything changes. WTF? This is pure masturbation.

USA Today: Quote of the day



"WTF? This is pure masturbation."

- Yunda Eddie Feng

LOL. Great one!

My main beef with the Matrix sequels was the thick, unshakeable feeling of self-inportance and pretense. Not to mention the beyond-horrible dialogue and grade-C acting (eg: Neo is so stupid that he can't figure out who Bane is after all that "Mr. Andersonnnnn" posturing and hissing). The philosophy, if we're being generous, of Reloaded and Revolutions is basically circular in nature and unsatisfyingly convulated.



You know what, I'm going to make up one of those Reloaded/Revolutions styled philosophical bullshit just for kicks. Tell me what you think of it:



"When you see yourself in the mirror, it is not yourself that is shown. It is what you want to see."



"You have to believe in the answer before it comes to you..."



"The Matrix Revolutions does not suck. It merely is, just as you are."

Quote:



"When you see yourself in the mirror, it is not yourself that is shown. It is what you want to see."



Then why aren't I as pretty as, say, John Puchio or Eddie Feng?



As for the Bane point... that's where we've become too entrenched in movies. It's like watching a slasher movie and thinking, "How could you be so stupid, there's a killer of course." We know that because we watch a lot of movies, but the characters are caught up in a mysterious situation and it's not clear. Just like the Bane thing... why, in the real world, would Neo even suspect that Bane's not Bane? If someone else took over Eddie's body, I'd be hard pressed to believe that Eddie wasn't messing with me.



I have to actively turn off my "movie sense" when I'm watching anything, so I can view it from a realistic perspective and not of a smart viewer.



TGP: What do you mean, the Oracle and the Architect weren't in the Real World. That was still in the Matrix... just because the war ended doesn't mean the Matrix was destroyed. Like Morpheus said in the first movie, most minds would never be ready to leave because they couldn't handle it.



Additionally, Neo fought Smith because he wanted to figure out what was going on, but as the odds started to go against his favor, he fled. Would you have just sacrificed yourself? No, and neither would any other rational person. It was only when Neo understood that he made the choice to sacrifice himeself, and was ready to do it.



While I don't think these movies were perfect, I did enjoy them and think all the criticism is completely untoward. Just my opinions.

Justin wrote:

" We know that because we watch a lot of movies, but the characters are caught up in a mysterious situation and it's not clear. Just like the Bane thing... why, in the real world, would Neo even suspect that Bane's not Bane? If someone else took over Eddie's body, I'd be hard pressed to believe that Eddie wasn't messing with me.

"



Well, I get what you mean, but I think in Revolution's case, the movie makers were treading the line of stupidity. I don't remember the movie exactly, nor do I want to, but I DO remember Neo being a dimmer bulb with every sequel.



You also can't deny that "fortune-cookie ramblings" that so permeated much of the dialogue in Reloaded and Revolutions. The whole quack philosophy blabbering pissed me off to no end. It's not a line or two in the movie; no, I bet there were hundreds of those "oh, it's soooo profound" lines of dialogue.



And a whole lot of dumb little things just stick out, you know? Why were the warriors of the future in those clumsy, open mechs? Wow I bet it feels great when those hot minigun shells fell on their bare faces. Or a bullet to the head. Or a random piece of fatal war debris. But wait, didn't the first movie say that "EMP, the only weapon we have against the sentinels"? somehow, all we need now is some low tech miniguns, shoot a few clips and those metal clad sentinels drop dead, eh? How convenient. Oh, I also think I found the reason for those open top, open side Mechs: it makes for more dramatic deaths *cough* the general *cough*.



I could go on and on on the fatal flaws in the movie, but it's not worth my time.



About the one thing I like about Revolutions though: the special effects were very well done.

the only thing that i can think of about the EMP issue is that maybe the humans wanted to slow down the sentinals because their own people needed computer access (as seen in "the last flight of the osiris"). however, the whole thing sucks anyway because of the philosophy mumbo-jumbo.

Why? Why, oh, why did I do it? I knew better, but I wasn't feeling well, so...I rented this.



And I liked it!



Not the best entry in the series, but an appropriate ending.





Oh, wait, that's the sinus medicine talking.



Blech! Boring, uninspired moviemaking at its finest. Enough plot holes to fit the Nebuchadnezzer through, a markedly astounding lack of adherence to its own logic, and philosophical loopholes that would make Rene Descartes rethink his vocation. For this one he would have to say, "I play video games; therefore, I am."



And what about that Powerade ad? You've got a bland world where everything is a generic, no name product, yet blazing in the train station is an ad for Powerade. When did energy drink companies become Hollywood pimps?



If you've seen this: my prayers are with you, brother; if you haven't seen this, but you have seen Reloaded: skip this one and convince yourself that the second installment was all a bad dream; if you've only seen the first one and neither of the sequels: stop while your ahead and count yourself lucky.



Sean (...neo can be rearranged to spell one; mobil can spell limbo; but crap still spells crap...) :@

Sean,



Well, don't say we didn't try to warn you. ;)



Tim(tee hee hee, snicker snicker. . .)

Tim,



It musta been the allergy medication. I couldn't help myself. I just kept hoping beyond hope that this would be one of those I might disagree with everyone on.



I should have learned my lesson from Who Wants To Be a Millionaire by now: always go with the audience!



Sean (...to quote Smith, "it's not fair!"...) :.(

i liked this movie. i think that i'm the only person alive who did, but anyway i liked it and cant wait for the 10 disc matrix box set to come out.

The tag line for this film was the most bloated, pretentious, trying to sound cool and intelligent, peice of crap writing ever: "Everything that has a beginning, has an end." No! Really? You don't say? Hell, if they can write crap like that and get away with it, maybe there is hope for me as a writer after all!

The worst part about this movie is that it does nothing to explain the Matrix Reloaded, becuase the reason why everyone liked that film is becuase they knew there was another sequel coming to help them understand all that crap that the characters spouted. The Revolutions comes (of which there was no revolution, it was a damn draw) out and instead just continues rambling on, answering or justifying anything. So not only is this film terrible, but it brings Reloaded down too beacuase now you'll never know what the hell they were talking about! ARGH! Damn this movie to the depths of hell where it will get a hot and fiery makeover, and maybe come back a little better!

Take a deep breathe, do you feel all better now?

marginally...

Let me tell you my experience with MR. Where I live we have got very, very warm climate. 100 on a cold day, 120 on a regular. In warm climate bugs grow huge. Cockroaches can be up to two inches and quite fat. They mostly live outdoors; when they mate, they fly.



I went to see Revolutions and fell asleep because it was a particularly stressful week, and thater was cool and the movie was kinda boring. When I woke up, cockroaches were flying all over the huge screen.



It was all so gross I couldn??t finish my popcorn.

Don't they have pest control where you live?

Sasha, how could you tell the real bugs from the buggy movie?



John

Trilogy review



The Matrix-10

Reloaded- 7 1/2

Revolutions-8



Gosh i wasnt looking forward to reloaded and revolutions but when i saw the trailers i was like hey may turn out good guess i was wrong gosh the only thing that kept me awake was agent smith even tho his fights with NEo sucked he was cool and have to admit special effects was cool and i still have love to watch each movie on a good day will give revolutions credit tho the lobby fight at begenning was cool. But i think that revolutions is very underated by people i actually to be hounest find it better than reloaded story wise. Reloaded was just so jam packed with information it was just really bloated and really was confusing when rev. was a straight story and concentrated on what the original film did and that is the war between humans and machines and Neo's purpose which in reloaded was nothing but fighting so i give a good note to end this trilogy on not a terrible trilogy just the Brothers got way to sure of themselves give B-