Titanic [Special Collector's Edition]

WOW! Cant wait! Awesome cover. Better then the previous

It's James Horner, not David Horner

It's a bad movie, not a good movie

Arnold would have made this flick interesting;)

Hey why don't we (Region 1) get the four-disc edition?

Why don't Region 1 consumers get the four-disc edition?... probally you know this, but in case you don't... TITANIC was produced by 2 mayor studios, and since the release of the film in theaters, the agrement was that Paramount would hold the rights and profits from USA and Canada distribution, including video rights, while FOX for the rest of the world...
Therefore Paramount decided to release in USA and Canada only as a 3 disc Special Collector's Edition, while FOX decided to release it for the rest of the world, as a 2 disc Special Edition and a 4 disc Deluxe Edition...
As far as i'm aware, the Region 4 - 2 disc Special Edition contains the movie and some of the additional material, while the 4 disc Deluxe Edition contains the movie and all the same additional material included in the Region 1 release...
If you don't mind, as soon as the Region 4 is released, i'll give you a review so you can compare it with the Region 1 release, including video and audio quality of the movie, additional material included, as well as the content of the fourth disc.

according to dvdanswers.com, the 4th disc in the 4-disc set basically offers disposable extras. it is also more-expensive than the 2-disc version that is standard for most of the world. therefore, the 3-disc version isn't a bad offering for region 1.

I have no real complaints about losing the fourth disc as it basically only contained trailers and spoofs, but was just wondering why. Thanks for the info genbar.

I got information from a DVD distributor that the Region 4 release, will be pretty much the same as the Region 1 version; indeed US and Canada consumers will get the 3 disc edition, while the rest of the world the 2 and 4 disc editions.
Regardless of the Region, Disc 1 contains the movie, while discs 2 and 3 contain the additional material, but the fourth bonus disc will only availible with the 4 disc Deluxe Edition.
Prices: Region 1 - 3 Disc Special Collector's Edition US$30, Region 2 or 4 - 2 Disc Special Edition US$20, 4 Disc Deluxe Edition US$30 (you can get them at lower price if you buy them with sales discount)
Release Dates: Region 1 at October 25, 2005; Region 2 and 4 at November 7, 2005, these release dates could change without notice (Region 2 and 4 first scheduled to be released on same date as Region 1, but it was posponned)
Therefore if you have a multiregional player, and which to buy the 4 Disc Deluxe Edition (Region 2 or 4) the price is the same as the 3 Disc Special Edition (even lower if you find it on sale) so don't get discouraged with the believe that because contains 4 disc will be more expensive, which isn't the case.
To make your decision easier, the cover art is similar in all editions, in the case or the 3 and 4 disc editions, is pretty much identical design; also consider that Region 4 is NTSC, while Region 2 is PAL, in case you don't have a NTSC compatible television with PAL signal.

OK, who was the one with the brilliant idead to give this guy the responsibility to review this DVD?
" I don???t think that ???Titanic??? is a bad film at all; I???m just not sure that it is as great as everyone say it is."
How 'bout you tell us what you really think? Instead of basing your opinion on what everyone else thinks, the lack of proffesionalism found on the film review itself is just hilarious. I was reading the review and I found this guy lost, did you struggle while writing this?
"While DiCaprio and Winslett never connect satisfactorily to this reviewer???s mind, they do share a moment on the bow of the ship, the famous scene where Jack teaches Rose how to ???fly.??? Silence! Like we care! Who would want to read a review when every chance he has he takes cheap shots at the movie, constantly mocking its storyline and acting and thoroughly making it sound like complete, utter garbage. How bout you pass it down to John J., a far more proffessional reviewer, who really goes deeper with his thoughts on the movie?
Word of advice: Who would want to read something that's so full of negativity? Just give up man.

And oh yea, WTF??? Picture: 7???? What.....
I read John's far better review and he gave the non-anamorphic transfer an 8!! What kinda screen were you using, your old Gateway computer screen? Did you compare with the last barebones disc? Can't you you really see a difference? How bout a new TV?
Perhaps you need to take a bit of your time and check these screencaps: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244025
Just see for yourself the increased sharpness, and more vivid colors! ( Washed out... ha!) Now that's a great review, I like the way they explain the technical parts.
Hey John, can you do something similar to the Lion King and Matrix UC review and do the same double review??

dude you need to calm down. There's a difference in "having an opinion and discussing it", to "knowing you are right and making everyone else feel stupid for not knowing you're right".

dvdtownisbs,

Just because you like Titanic doen't mean that the reviewer should like it too. It is his review and solely his thoughts. So why are you worried if one reviewer doesn't think this movie is worth it?

I watched this movie 3 times in the theater and everytime I fell asleep on the same scene. Frankly, this movie is ok but doesn't merit the status given to it.

Did I ever say I liked/loved it??? Anyone? Well I was also giving my opinion as well on the terrible reviewer and his lack of professionalism. Everytime I read a review, I don't expect whining and a search for bad things to look in the movie. By the time you get to the store and pick the DVD up,you'll think back and "hmmm... is this really worth it? Well it got a rating of 6 so I'll get Batman Begins instead." You see, people browse for reviews to see if it's a good little package to buy,but so much negativity just ruins everything. If I was a fan, I wouldn't even bother reading this review since I know is a good movie. But the general reader would expect to keep your "what could've been better" facts to yourself.

"I watched this movie 3 times in the theater and everytime I fell asleep on the same scene. Frankly, this movie is ok but doesn't merit the status given to it. " Thanks for sharing!

One more thing, I don't read reviews for fun, but as an encouragement to buy this release. Just looking for a good pop corn flick, bye!

You seem to have a very, very strange idea of what a film review is supposed to be, dvd. We don't view our role as being mindless shills for the studio who just pretend that everything is wonderful. If you only read reviews as "an encouragement to buy this release", you might want to look for another site.

I have read other reviewer's thoughts on the film's transfer and completely disagree. The transfer is soft and there was a definate shimmer on both the contemporary and historical scenes. And I'm watching it on a Sony 42" LCD with a Denon 1910 DVD player, connected via DVI-HDMI cables. You may never have heard of the brand, they don't sell them at Wal-Mart. (Now THAT is a cheap shot). I have no idea what sort of equipment that HTF reviewer worked on, but be warned that scaled-down screen caps should never be taken as a marker of quality.

And as for my "lack of professionalism" by citing the history of the film... am I supposed to ignore the film's place as the highest-grossing movie of all time? I gave an honest review with honest opinions. Because you don't agree doesn't make them "wrong" or "unprofessional."

People come to DVDTown.com because we don't fall victim to studio hype. Though I may personally disagree, we gave negative reviews to the Lord of the Rings movies (I give them more credit than Eddie did/does). We give honest opinions, which is all a review is. If you want film criticism, buy a book.

Dvdtownisbs,

First of all, is it ok if I call you Dick?
Really, can I call you Dick?

Ok then, Dick, I have to go with Justin on this one. I found his review fair and his opinion is respectfully stated well. In my own opinion, I???d have to agree with most of his review. I respect ???Titanic??? for what it is, but you have to admit, Dick, that it really is an overrated film. Nevertheless, Dick, opinion is just that, opinion. It doesn???t constitute that anyone should be rudely attacked for it as you have done to Justin.

As for the whole video thing and looking at scaled-down screen caps Dick, you do realize that anyone with a decent graphics program can mess with those? Right Dick, you did know that didn???t you? You should never trust any kind of screen comparison on the internet or television. Any of those screen caps and/or side-by-side comparisons can be tampered with, Dick, to make the new release look better. The whole idea in the DVD market, Dick, is to GET PEOPLE TO BUY! Therefore, studios will use every little dirty trick in the book in order to tempt the consumer, but you already knew this, didn???t you Dick?

Well Dick, maybe next time you???ll play a little nicer and not be such a . . . well, you know. ;)

Tim

LOL, ok now you're insinuating, or better yet, stating that every other site is just posting happy/positive reviews on DVD's just for marketing purposes? So they're all a fake?
Tim: So you think they used Photoshop or something? Wow, now I'm curious, I might as well ask every other review sites on this, "enhacing screencaps" sounds a bit too harsh and well.... stupid.

Back to topic, I don't think 'washed out colors' is an appropriate thing to use for the video quality for this release, perhaps, "Colors are a bit warmer than the original DVD release, but still ring true."
Did you also judge your magical 'Picture' rating on sharpness or even contrast. hu? Or you just looked rapidly through the first couple of chapters with your glorious TV in your oh so expensive Denon DVD with high fidelty cables and said, "OMG, look at those colos hugh!" Perhaps you might want to look at other reviews and read how they go through every different aspect of the picture. (DVD FILE, The Digital Bits) NOTE: If the colors didn't "pop out" of your screen it does not make it an average transfer. Perhaps you've had TOO much of the Star Wars II transfer!

Well, Dick, we here at DVDTown.com do our own reviews and don't rely on the competition to tell us how we should feel. There's a reason there are a variety of sites available, so that you can compare and contrast and find the best fit for you.

I stand by the comments I made regarding "Titanic" and its transfer. If you feel so moved as to continue this discussion that is fine, but please do so AFTER you've actually seen the DVD and can make an informed opinion. You seem set on buying it no matter what I say.

Well, I can't argue with that. I guess I'll be back Tuesday night and see how everything turns out.

Dick: LOL, ok now you're insinuating, or better yet, stating that every other site is just posting happy/positive reviews on DVD's just for marketing purposes?

Yes, absolutely. Not like it's never been thought of or done.


Dick: So they're all a fake?

Oh, let me ask my Magic 8 Ball ??? ???All signs point to YES!???


Dick: So you think they used Photoshop or something?

Quite possibly or perhaps Adobe After Effects or just about any other graphics/video editing program out there.


Dick: Wow, now I'm curious, I might as well ask every other review sites on this, "enhacing screencaps" sounds a bit too harsh and well.... stupid.

No, not stupid where profit and money are involved, and I don???t think I need to spell it out for you on that topic Dick.


Have a good one Dick ;)
Chat with you later.

Tim

Citing DVD File and The Digital Bits is a worthless endeavor. They give detailed attention only to a handful of titles per year. Usually, DVD File's reviews are defeatist in nature--the reviewers nearly always write that you'll buy the DVD if you're a fan of the movie regardless of its actual merits, which is a complete waste of everyone's time (the reviewers' included). The Digital Bits is now in the habit of publishing three or more capsule reviews at a time with each release getting a "the picture looks okay" kind of comment.

Here at DVD Town, at the very least, titles get reviewed on their own and are given equal attention by each reviewer. Like a movie or not, at least we're fairly democratic with regards to our approach.

By the way, Justin, "LOTR 2" got a 6 and "LOTR 3" got a 7 from me--both still "positive" on a 10-scale.

I'm back! Well, I'll give the picture quality a 9. Not a perfect transfer, however "washed out colors" weren't present--- to me at least. This was really close to The Fellowship of the Ring EE transfer. It was a bit soft during very shorts period of time, and they don't distract. The rest was just a sharper, more vivid transfer than its older release.

I thought the LOTR transfers were plagued with jaggies and digital artifacts, with some scenes containing faint colour bleeding, really I wouldn't give those things higher than a 7, but I do have high hopes for this Titanic transfer and yes I do consider it a great film, and very deserving of best picture (I mean if Silence of the Lambs can get an oscar... or Rain Man... [shudders] or perhaps the pinnacle of absurdity: "How Green Was Our Valley"--which actually beat out Citizen Kane!)

Although I respect justins review as his opinion, I too disagree with his rating. Picture came out beautiful on my display. I owned the old cheap version and had to manually adjust the picture because of the compression used in the old transfer. Any mitsubishi owners out there? Standard view came out squashed and in order to see it properly proportioned you had to expand it. This magnifies the pixelation and adds noise to the picture. The new release I can tell is a much better transfer. no expanding needed and looks way better, sharper. Still some SLIGHTLY washed out colors, but not bad in my opinion. IT's worth the upgrade if you enjoyed the movie.

dvdtownisbs

what you may consider a 9 on pq, maybe a 5 on some one else review. it all comes down to what each reviewer see's and hear's, not just the type of display or hardware one has. but each persons own eye sight and hearing. not many will have the same veiw on the plot naturally. but you can't expect everyone to have the same review when we all see and hear things differantly. I give this version a 7 compared to a 6 I gave the first release, only because of the sound track. for the resources they have, this re-release could have been better in the video department.

but thats just what i see.

I have just watched disk 1 of my four disk set (region 2), I have seen the film on the cinema and was stunned by its beauty, special effects, the lot, watching this version though, was different, I know, I cant afford a hulking great cinema screen, etc, but with the night time scenes and rose standing on the boat, getting ready to jump off, those sorts of scenes, the night sky was very obviously digital, in some places, the sky was made up of black blocks, fading in the distance. But I do have to say that the mini clips running throughout the film are excellent, and although making it even longer, (I have only watched 1 disk so far), it made it even more enjoyable. however the "alternative ending" was rubbish, I'm glad they didn't use that as the main ending! I am looking forward to finding some more time to watch the rest of the film and all the other bits and pieces over the disks.

Does anyone have any information as to why the deleted scenes weren't incorporated with the film? It's not a major loss because we still get them, but it sounds like they put a lot of work into completing these scenes and it's a little strange we don't get them with the feature film. Genbar? John? Anyone?

I would guess that Cameron didn't want to make an "extended cut." He's happy with the movie presented.

Now released in DTS 6.1 and I agree with the author...really really good audio! Now we must all have to buy DVD's all over again in HD and 6.1 a must for all who LOVE audio in these movies!