Terminator 3 has Blu problems

Terminator 3 has Blu problems.

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By Henning Molbaek
FIRST ONLINE Jan 1, 2008

The Blu-ray release of "Terminator 3" from Warner Bros. seems to have been encoded in 1080i and not the supposed 1080p.

The release had to be re-encoded for Blu-ray becuase Warner decided to "fake" the picture-in-picture feature on the disc. This would allow for older Blu-ray players to play the feature as a second video track with the picture-in-picture burned into the film itself not using two streams as HD DVD does. It was in this process something went wrong.

Warner Bros. can be contacted if you own a faulted Blu-ray disc at 1-800-553-6937.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Member since:
October 2007

Lame Warner, Lame...

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Member since:
March 2002

To all those affected by this problem . . .

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

kucoloco

Member since:
September 2007

lol

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Member since:
July 2006

mvckalel, I wouldn't blame Warner for this one. If bluray had their product working properly (i.e. interactive features) Warner wouldn't have had this problem. Thats the bottom line.

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Skyhawk

Member since:
October 2007

Old news now, but yes, it must be format related. At least owners of cheap Toshiba HD DVD players don't have to worry about this problem, everything is 1080i anyway.

[Post edited by Skyhawk on Jan 1, 2008]

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Member since:
October 2007

Hey, Warner keeps messing around with us...the Superman Collection, the Harry Potter collection, the Blade Runner Collection....why dont we name some other mistakes by Warner?

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Member since:
November 2007

I know I'm setting my own self up with this one.

I say let HDDVD have them, they use the VC-1 codec that alot of people claim is inferior to the AVC codec. They take the VC-1 masters intened for HDDVD and use it for Blu ray. Disney, Fox, and Sony uses AVC. So HDDVD can have WB. They screw up all of their Blu ray titles anyway.

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Member since:
July 2006

To be fair the HD DVD version of Terminator 3 is encoded in 1080P/24 fps with interactive features and it has ZERO issues.

All the issues Warner is having with the bluray versions of the same movies have to do with the format, not the studio.

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Skyhawk

Member since:
October 2007

Quote:
All the issues Warner is having with the bluray versions of the same movies have to do with the format, not the studio.

Agreed. This is why Disney, Tartan, BCI, Fox, MGM, New Line. and Lionsgate often can't get 1080p on their Blu-ray releases either. They've also been known to put HD DVD titles within Blu-ray box sets as well. So it's not just a Warner problem. And the fact that Warner cannot reissue a 1080p release of Terminator 3 on Blu-ray to correct this problem is obviously indicative of the limitations of the Blu-ray format.

Tuesday, January 1, 2008

Skyhawk

Member since:
October 2007

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So HDDVD can have WB. They screw up all of their Blu ray titles anyway.

I'm not sure if I agree with your premise, but you do have a point about the duel format studio issue in one way. To save costs, the big duel format studios (Warner) normally use the same encode for both formats instead of optimizing them for their relative strengths. I've often wondered what a 18Mbps average VC-1 would have looked like had it been optimized with 30+Mbps AVC encode with lossless L-PCM for the Blu-ray version. I'm guessing we have to wait at least 3 years to find out!