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Video Business: DVD vs Blu-ray disc prices average a $10 difference

Video Business: DVD vs Blu-ray disc prices average a $10 difference
" A new report reveals consumers pay about $10 more for Blu-ray discs over DVD.

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By Mondo Kane
First published Jan 2, 2009

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DVD vs Blu-ray disc prices average a $10 difference (according to the following)

Blu-ray buyers still support cheaper DVD
-Men still more likely to buy high-def discs

By Susanne Ault, Video Business
-December 31, 2008

Most Blu-ray Disc consumers are paying between $20 and $30 for titles, marking about a $10 difference between the majority of standard-definition discs bought at $10 to $19.99 pricing, according to the NPD Group.

About half of all Blu-ray discs are purchased at the $20+ price point, about the same as common new release retail pricing for standard DVD during the format's early years. However, many consumers are balking at Blu-ray´s current premium over standard DVD, according to NPD entertainment analyst Russ Crupnick.

"We know that Blu-ray customers are still overwhelmingly selecting DVD when given the choice," said Crupnick. "People will go and buy The Dark Knight on Blu-ray," he added. "But for whatever other movie, they think they can just get it on DVD for less. I don't think people are saying that they necessarily have to have a Blu-ray price that is the same as DVD. But the premium is a bit too steep right now for them."

Besides pricing, mainstream Blu-ray appeal is also being impacted by gender. The software continues to attract mostly an early adopter consumer profile, according to NPD. Currently, 72% of Blu-ray software buyers are male. That compares with standard DVD´s even 50/50 split between male and female buyers. Additionally, buyers are generally young, ages 25-34, matching the demographics for the most popular Blu-ray player, the PlayStation 3.

Yet, Crupnick is optimistic that more women will jump into the Blu-ray fold, as recent year-end format sales are grabbing their attention.

"If we looked at this a year ago, it was 80/20 [male/female]," said Crupnick. "I'll be curious if this will continue to change with all of the price reductions and post-holiday sales."

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Blu-ray boon for digital copy
-Dark Knight uptake passed 10% in one day

By Susanne Ault, Video Business
-December 31, 2008

Blu-ray Disc and digital copy look to be a winning combination, with consumers accessing digital copy from recent Blu-ray releases at twice the rate as from standard DVD.

According to Warner Home Video research, consumer use of digital copies on high-definition titles is double the uptake of digital copy on standard-def versions. The uptake rate (the percentage of buyers who access the included copy) also is measurably growing among Blu-ray consumers with successive Warner releases.

"The average take rate over the one month to eight month lifespan of BD titles prior to [Dec. 9] release The Dark Knight hasn't exceeded 8%," said Dorinda Marticorena, Warner senior VP of worldwide marketing and high-def. "But on day one, The Dark Knight hit above 10%. On this title, the consumer is clearly saying that the value is here, and I'm taking advantage of it."

She added that "in general, the BD SKU has twice the take rate as SD SKUs. That's not really surprising as we anticipate the Blu-ray consumer is technologically forward, where you have your early adopters in that population."

Warner and most studios continue to offer most copies for both Blu-ray and standard def, however, in hopes of exposing as many consumers as possible to digital copy technology.

"We are trying to make digital copy as accessible and ubiquitous as we possibly can in the packaged media business," said Marticorena.

At 19 to date, Warner Home Video has so far streeted the largest number of Blu-ray digital copy titles, according to VB sister publication Twice (This Week in Consumer Electronics). That is followed by 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment (9), Lionsgate Home Entertainment (8), Universal Studios Home Entertainment (7), Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment (3), Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (1) and Paramount Home Entertainment (1).

Sources indicate that digital copy usage overall is still low, with title uptake across studio titles ranging between 5% and 13%. Attaching a copy to a disc carries a significant expense, about $1.15 per unit, say sources, so studios are refining strategies to make sure their work is valued by consumers.

(One report from NPD Group showed about half of all respondents saying they had accessed a copy included in a title they had bought. However, information was gathered online and might have magnified the behavior of the most tech-savvy consumers.)

Retailers note that Blu-ray with digital copy hits best with their customers.

"We've seen most of the interest in digital copies accompany films that typically do well on Blu-ray," Virgin Megastores buyer Chris Anstey said. "WALL•E, for example, had better sales on the Blu-ray version containing the digital copy than the standard Blu-ray version without it, even though the list price was slightly higher" on the one with digital copy.

Despite the light usage in general, Amazon.com started merchandising around the feature in September by launching a Digital Copy store within its movie home page.

"We wanted to provide customers with a resource to learn about what digital copy is and the benefits of the feature," Amazon.com spokeswoman Tammy Hovey said. "We worked closely with the studios to create an easy to use, yet comprehensive destination for customers to learn about digital copy."

Whether they actually access the files, Amazon customers are preferring titles with digital copy.

"Interest in digital copy DVDs continue to grow," said Hovey. At the beginning of December, "digital copy versions of The Dark Knight and WALL•E [were] ahead of their non-digital copy counterparts in terms of their Amazon.com sales rank."

Research also indicates that people want digital copy, whether or not they load it onto a media playing device. Futuresource Consulting, citing Warner research, said 64% of consumers perceive a DVD with digital copy to be a better value than the same DVD with no digital copy. Also 49% of survey respondents said digital copy made the DVD more interesting to buy.

To reconcile consumers' apparent desire with this low usage reality, studios need to roll out heftier marketing campaigns, say retailers and analysts.

All the major studios are now offering copies compatible with iPods and their iTunes software, which control more than 80% portable media device market share, said NPD. Sony, one of the last studio hold-outs, will launch its first iTunes copy download with next week's release of the comedy, Pineapple Express.

"One of the things that we found with our study is that a lot of people came to this accidentally," NPD entertainment industry analyst Russ Crupnick said. "It needs to be ratcheted up a bit. Otherwise, you´d hate to have this benefit that is a side thing. You want them to know that there is an incremental value proposition."

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Digital copy a hit with consumers, says NPD survey
-79% prefer embedded file on discs

By Susanne Ault, Video Business
-December 10, 2008

Consumers have taken a liking to DVD and Blu-ray Disc digital copy, especially when files are embedded into discs as opposed to being downloaded, according to an NPD Group survey.

Digital copy is proving to fit into consumers' evolving lifestyles, in which more time is spent viewing entertainment on devices other than their TV sets.

Three out of four DVD and Blu-ray buyers who watch movies or TV shows on portable devices say they´re interested in buying physical discs holding a digital copy, according to NPD. The research concern also found that more than half of DVD and/or Blu-ray buyers have watched a full-length TV show or movie on a portable device.

When given a choice, 79% of survey respondents said they would rather transfer files from discs than download the content from the Internet.

"The consumer preference for moving their digital copies to other devices as opposed to downloading via the Web shows there are still opportunities for the industry to promote and extend the value of the physical DVDs and BD platforms," said Russ Crupnick, NPD entertainment industry analyst. "For consumers who don't have the time or know-how to download a full-length movie or TV show, digital copy provides a flexible and safe solution for transferring a legal version from a purchased disc to a portable device."

People also overwhelmingly say their digital copy experience is positive, as 80% of respondents who've bought titles with this feature say they would want to buy subsequent digital-copy-enhanced titles.

The hybrid benefits of the digital product wasn't lost on consumers, as 38% of people said they wanted to keep the disc as a back-up for their digital copies.

Digital copies also could spur hardware purchasing, as 27% of those surveyed said they´d be more inclined to buy a portable device so they can take advantage of the included files.

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Falcon01

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 8:17 AM
Falcon01
Member since:
July 2006
Interesting article. I can't wait for Skyhawk to call VB sore losers in the format war.

I don't know about the Digital Copy thing though. Not sure it's in such high demand.

StevePro

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 9:04 AM
StevePro
Member since:
June 2006
Not all bd titles have Digital Copy, but if one does have it, is it worth 8 or 10 bucks more? I think not. We have discussed bd prices in a zillion threads. The whole thing is a reoccurring circular argument it all keeps coming back to price. Period. BD simply costs too much for most people.

Skyhawk

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 9:48 AM
Skyhawk
Member since:
October 2007
Why would this be a surprise to anyone here other than Falcon?

DVD has reached an interesting stage, where Walmart and other stores now have several $5 throwaway bins. Our Walmart even has a 2 for $5 bin of catalog DVD selections! I paid $42 to get "The Thing" on DVD many years ago. It's not that price any more.

There was a time not long ago when DVDs cost much more than VHS tapes. Walmart had bins of $5 VHS tapes, then $2 tapes, then $1.... I saw my last bin of VHS tapes this Christmas at Zellers. I can't remember the price they were going for.

But if anyone (Falcon you listening?) believes that studios and retailers would simply replace the $5 and $10 DVDs in those throw away bins with Blu-ray equivalents for the same price, you have no idea about product introductions, adoption curves, or why studios were interested in introducing a high definition media format to begin with. DVD media is aged well past "noon", and the market is using the low margin, high volume approach that is always used during the down slope of a product cycle. The good news for those who feel HD isn't cost justifiable is that that down slope for DVD is going to last a long time - just as it lasted for VHS!

Meanwhile, yes a new Blu-ray catalog release may cost $25.00 while the same DVD title sitting in the Walmart bin may be retailing for $5 (that's a whopping $20 difference). But when the DVD format was on the uphill or peaking, that DVD probably cost more like... well... $25.00. And yes, during that same time there were hordes of people grabbing threw the $5 VHS bins.

When I look at the rows of $5 and especially the 2 DVDs for $5 bin at Walmart, I'm frankly surprised this article only calculated a $10 difference. Perhaps this has something to do with the lowered pricing of several BD catalog releases to under $20 in the big box & discount stores. If only DVD was as cheap at the same stage in its product cycle, my DVD collection would have cost MUCH less than it did.

StevePro

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 10:59 AM
StevePro
Member since:
June 2006
Quote:
DVD media is aged well past "noon", and the market is using the low margin, high volume approach that is always used during the down slope of a product cycle. The good news for those who feel HD isn't cost justifiable is that that down slope for DVD is going to last a long time - just as it lasted for VHS!


Remember that VHS was replaced by a demonstrably superior format. It's much different this time: most consumers presently simply do not see BD as being even marginally superior to DVD. With VHS, the physical appearance of the media was different with SD/BD, the media looks the same but it's quite a bit more expensive. These are not analogous events and people are not going to jump on this bandwagon as quickly or enthusiastically they did with DVD.

I don't think SD has reached its peak, but it could if BD ever gets its act in order and prices down to realistic levels. So far they have shown little inclination to do so.

Skyhawk

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 12:51 PM
Skyhawk
Member since:
October 2007
Quote:
most consumers presently simply do not see BD as being even marginally superior to DVD.


Even marginally, you say? Oh never mind... I wont even bother to go there...

Anyway, I guess consumers didn't find standard DVD as being even marginally superior to VHS in its 3rd year either - until DVD's 7th year when it finally exceeded unit sales of VHS with > 50% market share.

This is the first year of Blu-ray without the format war, and adoption is dependent on the consumer having an HDTV, and here we are in a recession - yet market share is already consistently over 10% versus DVD, and may be approaching 15% for Q1 2009.

And you better believe that the marketers are watching, analyzing sales value to price on a daily, weekly, etc. basis. These companies for example look at rental percentages to help determine the margins they can push. For example, it costs the same with many rental outlets to rent either DVD or BD, even though new release BDs are sold at a slight premium. If BD rental percentages to DVD exceeded BD sale percentages to DVD at a wide margin, this might indicate a price sensitivity signal.

All the arm chair marketing experts on this site (mostly former HD DVD fanboys) may think they're smarter than the best these multi-billion dollar corporations can hire, but I don't think so.

ReaggieP

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 12:54 PM
says... Still dislikes Sony...
ReaggieP
Member since:
January 2008
What pisses me off is that there at this date time only a handful of Blu-Ray titles worth investing into. Albeit HD Audio selections, and dramatic video improvements only effect a handful of selections. HD media advancements that really trigger my pocket book is the special adaptations and special features. For the most part, most of the fluff out there is satisfactory for DVD rentals. I mean, realistically in the last two weeks, I chose the DVD for most of my selections. Either A, the feature is not available on Blu-Ray, or B I cannot justify seeing a movie like "Burn After Reading" in HD. The DVD presentation was good enough. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie but was it worth that much in HD? Now, I'm not saying that Blu-Ray isn't useless, I'm just saying that titles such as "IronMan, Dark Knight were worth their weight in HD.

Surprisingly enough, the new release sections at either Blockbuster or Rogers Video need some adjustments. I mean, four or five copies or the newest Blu-Ray movies, how are you supposed to rent anything? It's actually quite sad.

Skyhawk

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 1:25 PM
Skyhawk
Member since:
October 2007
Quote:
I cannot justify seeing a movie like "Burn After Reading" in HD. The DVD presentation was good enough. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie but was it worth that much in HD?


I can't justify buying that title for $27 in standard DVD either. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad movie... just not something I will probably revisit outside of a later TV broadcast. It's a rental for me. But if the rental price is the same for BD and DVD (and it is with zip.ca), I'll go for the BD every time no matter what the movie is.

I don't think you need a CGI filled movie or one with amazing panoramic photography to benefit from HD. Oddly enough, the most popular movie lately that friends want to see at my house is Shawshank Redemption. And they're like "Oh WOW!". Funny that Shawshank was a must buy for me (triple dip?) in HD, yet Dark Knight was a rental.

Agreed that Rogers should get more new BD releases, especially those that fall in the middle of the popularity scale. At our neighborhood location, they might get 20 or 30 copies of Eagle Eye, yet only 2 Ghost Towns. WTF?

Tim Raynor

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 6:48 PM
says... Cooking books.
Tim Raynor
Member since:
March 2002
I was at BB last night going through the Blu's and DVDs, and yes, the average difference appeared to be around $10 from what I saw. Some of the Blu-rays are close to $40, and after sifting through Best Buy's Blu-ray library, I couldn't help but feel angry. I mean, I was boiling up mad over the stinking prices they think are fair! It made me want to track down the floor manager and give him/her a piece of my mind. I especially wanted to lose it right then and there when I saw the price of "Burn After Reading"(I did one of these: and a "You gotta' be kidding!" and basically said, "FAH Q SONY you bunch of book doctoring liars!") I just don't get how these jokers think the prices on these disc's fits the average price range of the average consumer when it does not!

ReaggieP

Jan 3, 2009 - CST 10:37 PM
says... Still dislikes Sony...
ReaggieP
Member since:
January 2008
Funny thing Tim. Next time your in Crockbuster, check out the Sony shit everywhere in the store. Blu-Ray Alarm clock radios(They don't play movies, but have logos on them), IPOO'D docking stations, PS3 Displays, Sony BDP-350 demo's with Blu-Ray VS DVD quality, Earphone, Cell Phones. It's actually quite humourous, how much they sold out to them. All of their movies in Blu-Ray were all conveniently prices at $34.99 or higher.

Falcon01

Jan 4, 2009 - CST 10:35 AM
Falcon01
Member since:
July 2006
It's funny you mention the DVD vs bluray comparison demos. I was at Bestbuy a while back and watched a demo where they split screen and show the same movie with DVD on one side and bluray on the other.

The joke is they intentionally make DVD look REALLY bad to try and magnify the difference. I asked one of the sales guys since when does DVD look so soft and grainy? He told me that he didn't know and reminded me that he didn't make the video. lol

My point is that if you have to make DVD look bad to make HD look more appealling to consumers then it's obvious the product isn't the drastic improvement people want it to be, especially when you have really good upconverting DVD players on the market (another product that bluray has to compete with).

When DVD came into the market, the difference was very noticeable when compared to VHS, not even to mention it was on a digital disc that takes less space on your shelf, you got digital audio, the video quality would not degrade over time because it was on tape, no need to rewind, skip to the next chapter, etc, etc, etc.
[Post edited by Falcon01 on Jan 4, 2009 - CST 10:40 AM]

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